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Pre-64 Mdl 70 barrel length in .375 H&H
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I have a Mdl 70 in .375 H&H with 22 inch barrel manufacture date 1956. Overall very good to excellent condition with minor handling marks on stock.Trying to determine if this was a custom special order. Does not appear to be rebarreled. Proof markings present.  New Haven Conn. U.S. of America. Winchester Proof Steel TRADE MARK Winchester-MODEL 70-375 H&H MAGNUM. Does anybody have information relative to the manufacture of the above rifle in barrel length of 22 inches?

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Larry,

Please post several clear pictures of it, to include clear close up pictures of the front sight and muzzle face.

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I have one from 1956 also. I have owned it for 25 years. Up until yours, mine was the only 375 I had seen or even heard of.

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Hi Larry-

Apart from Steve’s, I have seen one short barreled 375 MAGNUM that might (???) have been legit (not mine).  It’s a 1941 (39XXX serial number) rifle with 20″ C-1 contour barrel dated ’38 and integral forged ramp that looked OK to me.

Unfortunately, most 375 H&H Magnums with shorter than standard barrels were cut down later, to make them handier against charging bears presumably… Wink That said, it was possible to special order guns with non-standard barrel lengths.  So the best thing would be a very close examination of the ramp and muzzle crown on your rifle.  It might be the real thing, like Steve’s!!!

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Louis Luttrell said
Hi Larry-

Apart from Steve’s, I have seen one short barreled 375 MAGNUM that might (???) have been legit (not mine).  It’s a 1941 (39XXX serial number) rifle with 20″ C-1 contour barrel dated ’38 and integral forged ramp that looked OK to me.

Unfortunately, most 375 H&H Magnums with shorter than standard barrels were cut down later, to make them handier against charging bears presumably… Wink That said, it was possible to special order guns with non-standard barrel lengths.  So the best thing would be a very close examination of the ramp and muzzle crown on your rifle.  It might be the real thing, like Steve’s!!!

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Larry,

Please post several clear pictures of it, to include clear close up pictures of the front sight and muzzle face.

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Bert; 

Attached are photos of Mdl 70 IMG_0688.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0689.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0690.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0691.jpgImage Enlarger

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Front end of the ramp is too close to the muzzle, I’d say the barrel has been shortened.

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looks like the barrel has been cut….decent job

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It does look like ramp front surface is too close to the end of the muzzle face. Winchester specifies the ramp location from the barrel/receiver abutment shoulder to the center line of the front sight dovetail. On a standard 375 barrel this distance is 23.17″ +/- .010″. Nominally, this works out to about .350″ distance from muzzle face to front of ramp. In reality, based on measuring approximately 10 brazed ramp locations, it is usually closer to .390″.

   If I was guessing, I would say it has probably been cut and ramp rebrazed to barrel. My 22″ barreled 375 has a forged ramp, and not a brazed ramp. 

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Thanks for everybody’s input. i appreciate your reviews.

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