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January 26, 2019 - 1:36 pm
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Bert, I have two 43’s I’d like to add to your survey. 

.22 hornet #37331 standard configuration

.218 bee #43854 standard configuration

Any info. you could share would be appreciated.

Darrin 

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Darrin,

I already had both of them listed in my survey (I previously found them listed in auctions). Both rifles were manufactured in 1951, though the 22 Hornet probably has a “50” dated barrel. The 218 Bee should have a “51” dated barrel… can you please verify the barrel dates on each of them for me?

Based on when they were manufactured, both rifles were factory drilled & tapped for mounting a scope (a definite plus to the value).

Thus far, of the (929) Model 43 rifles I have recorded in the survey, 45.75% are Hornets, and 44.46 are Bees. The 25-20 WIN and 32-20 WIN only account for 9.8% of the total production.

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You are right Bert,

the Hornet is a ’50 date barrel & the Bee is dated ’51. Both guns are in nice cond. inside & out. The .218 bee had a small piece, 1/2″x3/8″, of what appeared to be masking tape on the forward part of the barrel which bedded against the stock as well as a shim washer between the stock screw hole & lug. The Hornet had not been apart before as near as I could tell.

One more question, neither magazine has a caliber stamping except on the Bee there is a capital “B” stamped on the follower. I noticed pictures you had posted of these mags with caliber marks. Was there a difference in years of manufacture? Are mine correct/original?

Thank you kindly for your information & attention. 

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Darrin,

I believe that both your magazines should be marked on the lower right-hand side of the magazine.  The factory magazine for my 22 Hornet (serial number 47042A) is marked.  I have had various collectors tell me that Winchester did not mark all of them, but in my experience, that has not been the case, especially with the 22 Hornet magazines.

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Thank you Bert.

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Thanks Bill… 1,205 and counting.

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I did find and record these just yesterday.

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Just picked this up. 

.22 Hornet

Standard configuration

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Manuel said
Just picked this up. 

.22 Hornet

Standard configuration

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Thanks… the DOM is August 1951, and it was factory drilled & tapped to mount a scope.

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Bert H. said

Thanks… the DOM is August 1951, and it was factory drilled & tapped to mount a scope.  

Yes sir!

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 recent acquisition, Nice clean Model 43   .22Hornet –33354A — December 1950; Jan 51? –  stock was covered in Spar Marine varnish, not factory either, A folded paper shim under the barrel at the receiver.  no bedding. I sanded off the spar varnish today, water base walnut hull color, and first coat of oil   I can lighten color up after it dries, with steel wool.  eyelet for a bipod had Weaver blocks- factory drilled as I’ve read.  Just what I was looking for, fair price. put the Leupold on the Ruger 1V. .22 Hornet. needs more oil coats, but it’s better than the spar varnish, belongs on boats.     0(. I tried to get the photos right,)

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Ralph,

October 1950, just a few weeks after Winchester started drilling & tapping the frame rings for scope blocks.  Now to take it to the range and find out how it shoots!

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My new to me 43.  Serial 31571 22 hornet that is factory tapped and I suspect an early one at that. Has a Weaver 2.5 scope.  Not sure if I can upload pics here but happy to forward photos if required.

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