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A question about an US Navy Winchester-Hotchkiss M1879 first model
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January 27, 2023 - 1:12 pm
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Hi forum

New to the forum, I’m from France so, excuse me for my clumsy english.

I have a question about my WH M1879 US Navy, serial #2263.

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It’s a non-upgraded first model, but it wears on the barrel the WWK initials for the Navy inspector Lt W.W.Kimball, above US/anchor.

In the “Collector’s guide to Winchester in the service”, Bruce Canfield tells that this marking can only be found on the second model.

And according to him, the correct barrel marking for the first model is WMF for Navy inspector Lt.[Image Can Not Be Found]Cdr William M.Folger


An opinion about that anomaly?



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January 27, 2023 - 5:11 pm
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Bonjour François,Wink

The Spring 2022 edition of the magazine, p16, will answer your question, and no it is not an anomaly. Both markings can be found on First Models depending on when they were made.

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I have never owned a 1st or 2nd Model military rifle.  And, I have never seen one for the Navy.  My 2nd Model Winchester/Sringfield Army carbine has HN, I believe, Henry Nettleton, stamped on the barrel.  My stock has SWP, Samuel W Porter, over 1881.  For those that don’t know about the 1st and 2nd model Army military carbines the receiver and buttplate and other small parts are Winchester but the stock and barrel are Springfield.  The 3rd Model Hotchkiss military model musket is all Winchester.  My 3rd Model Musket has DFC stamped on it.  David F Clark.

I’ll have to re read Jim’s article.  There is not a lot of data on the Hotchkiss or the Lee.

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