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I have many crates of ammunition to go through from my father but I need to get an idea of what different types are worth:/ The first three are below. All boxes are complete  except for the 50 express which has one used brass.

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I have Amy boxes of ammunition to go through from my father but I need to get an idea of what different types are worth:/ The first three are below. All boxes are complete  except for the 50 express which has one used brass. 

They maybe “Complete” but they’re not factory original boxed cartridges. 

For the 50 Express, the box is original $20-40, the ammo is mostly modern Jameson brass so not collectable ammunition. I’ve bought it for less that $3 per case.

The 45-90 Remington box is 1950s era, I’m guessing $150-175. But I’m not certain that they aren’t reloads. 

The 45-90 Winchester box is original and early. But if it weren’t mixed with Peters cases and not reloads I’d say $300, but more like $150-175.

All good for shooting or for display, but a ammunition purist wouldn’t consider them collectable in my opinion.

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Not an expert on collectable ammo, but I am an enthusiast of 45-90. I will say that the box shown in the last three pics is a fairly nice box that appears to be from the black powder era, Except it has a a red sticker indicating the “metal patched bullets”, which they are not according to what I can see in your picture of the one round. Also there are mixed head stamps in the box, not all of them are Winchester. And sorry to say it doesn’t appear to have the wood strip in the bottom of the box as the case heads seem to sit at the same level. IMHO it would be only worth what a collector would pay for an empty box. Maybe $100.

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Maverick said

zhammett said

I have Amy boxes of ammunition to go through from my father but I need to get an idea of what different types are worth:/ The first three are below. All boxes are complete  except for the 50 express which has one used brass. 

They maybe “Complete” but they’re not factory original boxed cartridges. 

For the 50 Express, the box is original $20-40, the ammo is mostly modern Jameson brass so not collectable ammunition. I’ve bought it for less that $3 per case.

The 45-90 Remington box is 1950s era, I’m guessing $150-175. But I’m not certain that they aren’t reloads. 

The 45-90 Winchester box is original and early. But if it weren’t mixed with Peters cases and not reloads I’d say $300, but more like $150-175.

All good for shooting or for display, but a ammunition purist wouldn’t consider them collectable in my opinion.

Sincerely,

Maverick

  

The Remington is without a doubt in my mind reloads. Box is for “soft point” and the one shown is a non jacketed lead bullet. This what it should look like. Notice the “silver jacket at the base end of bullet. I will say that your box is quite a bit nicer than mine. IMG_0695.JPGImage Enlarger

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The first box (50-95 WCF) is actually a relatively rare box.  However, the cartridges in it are modern manufactured reloads.  The box was originally filled with specially made shot cartridges designed for the Winchester Single Shot rifles only.  In the past 40+ years, I have only seen three boxes like it (and I own one of them).

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The first box (50-95 WCF) is actually a relatively rare box.  However, the cartridges in it are modern manufactured reloads.  The box was originally filled with specially made shot cartridges designed for the Winchester Single Shot rifles only.  In the past 40+ years, I have only seen three boxes like it (and I own one of them).

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Hey Bert,

Very cool box, but why for single shot rifles only?  And why cannot be used in the 1876?  

Don

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I agree, all rounds appear to be reloads but the boxes are quite interesting. We don’t often see the Jamison headstamp, IIRC they were a specialty cartridge manufacturer. Anybody familiar with them?

 

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Don,  I would suspect there may be feeding issues from the magazine.  If the overall length is off a tad it would allow a second cartridge to start to feed and jam the rifle if short or if long do so on feeding just the one.  Little doubt it could be single loaded and used that way.  Putting it side by side with an original cartridge with bullet could tell a lot.  And no, I don’t have a shot cartridge to match with my bullet loaded ones.  Tim

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I agree, all rounds appear to be reloads but the boxes are quite interesting. We don’t often see the Jamison headstamp, IIRC they were a specialty cartridge manufacturer. Anybody familiar with them?

 

Mike

  

Jamison manufactured brass in the early 2000’s to support the modern reproduction Model 1876 rifles/carbines made by Uberti of Italy and Chapparal of the USA.  Jamison closed up shop in 2011.  Their brass cases were of very high quality.  

I have some .45-75 WCF and .40-60 WCF Jamison cases that I use for my original Model 1876 shooters.

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Bert H. said

The first box (50-95 WCF) is actually a relatively rare box.  However, the cartridges in it are modern manufactured reloads.  The box was originally filled with specially made shot cartridges designed for the Winchester Single Shot rifles only.  In the past 40+ years, I have only seen three boxes like it (and I own one of them).

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Hey Bert,

Very cool box, but why for single shot rifles only?  And why cannot be used in the 1876?  

Don

  

Don,

Winchester manufactured two different types of 50-95 WCF Shot cartridges.  The style made for the Single Shot has a much shorter OAL and it will not reliably feed from the magazine through the action on a Model 1876.  The Shot cartridges made for the Model 1876 lever-action used a carboard shot cup shaped like a bullet.

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