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Antique primer "Burdan No,1" green paper tin
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Hello all, so many questions. I found a tin of Primers with primers in it. It’s green round tin with paper top lable. I am confused with everything here, this was not sealed so these could have been replaced from original, some are brass some are copper, the round tin alone is hard to find a photo of, much less the primers that are to fill this tin. 

It’s really cool, and I think 1800s I will try to add a photo as it’s easier to understand. And any info is helpful. 

 

Tim

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The copper primers are probably older than the brass ones.  Without pictures we can’t tell you much more.

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Not sure how to get pictures on here, but I posted them on Facebook here is the link to my page and pics. 

Or if someone can help me post pics that would help too

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161264199235648&id=798450647

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Here are your photos.

Bob

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I believe that most of the 1890’s Winchester rifle ammo used the #2-1/2 primers.  I need to look at Dan Shuey’s books for info.

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TopRtCorner-1879Brd.jpg Your primer tin is likely as old as 1879, or possibly older (But it is also a probability of having been made after 1879). The same label is shown on the top right corner of the 1879 Cartridge Board. It could be older than 1879, but also after as I don’t know when or if they changed that label for the berdan primers tin. It was assuredly changed in 1902, when Winchester Trade Marked everything with their name on it.  Winchester had sold the Berdan Primers since day one that they starting selling reloading components in 1874. Sorry I can’t nail a date down better for you. I’m currently researching the primers in general for the Reloading Tool Research I’m doing. But have to admit I’ve not spent as much time on primers, and also hadn’t paid much attention to the Berdan Primers, per say.

primer6.jpg I find the construction of the bottom portion of the tin interesting. Most I’ve seen are of one solid extruded piece of metal, similar to the method using in extruding brass for the making of cartridge shell casings. This tin appears to have a soldered edge and bottom piece. 

The bottom words would have read Water Proof on the top label.

Nice piece you got there.

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