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I was reading some info on the 74 here and there was mention of a spring under the tube feed in the stock that could get missing. Well mine seams to be gone. Can someone tell me exactly what that part is called? Hopefully I can order one.

Also confused about this part. I believe it is the trigger mechanism. Is it suppose to have a spring in the location it is in?? This is a 1940 year in LR.

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Hi Steve,

The part you are describing is the “Magazine Lifting Spring” – https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/winchester/rifles-win/74-22-win

For your other question, no, there is not supposed to be a spring under the head of that screw.  No idea why someone would add it.

Do you have a photo of the entire rifle?  Your “1940” rifle should have a pre-war blunt forend style stock, are you certain it is a 1940 vintage?  What is the serial number?

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serial# 57444 ..The trigger is very hard to press like it is. The photo of the 1940 one is the one where the stock is off.

 

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Hi Steve,

The stock on your 1940 rifle is a post-war stock (not original to the rifle).  The sear release is where that screw with the abnormal spring is located so that may have something to do with the hard trigger pull.  The Model 74 typically has a mushy trigger but they are never hard to pull unless there is a problem somewhere.

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I am thinking  I need that timer rocker spring. There is not one there

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Yes!  If yours does not have that spring that would be a problem and probably the reason that other spring was scrunched under the screw.

Good luck with your project, the Model 74 is normally an accurate, reliable rifle (when assembled with all the right pieces).

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Hi Steve,

The stock on your 1940 rifle is a post-war stock (not original to the rifle).  The sear release is where that screw with the abnormal spring is located so that may have something to do with the hard trigger pull.  The Model 74 typically has a mushy trigger but they are never hard to pull unless there is a problem somewhere.

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Is there a pic of the correct stock somewhere?

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Here are a few pictures of the pre-war stock, note the blunt (squared-off) forend.  This stock style was used until 1946.

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Wow that is a difference in stocks.

 

What got me really concerned about this rifle was that I loaded it up with 5 rounds and they went off like a fully auto rifle or burp gun.. Scared the bejebies out of me. Like I said I had to pull the trigger really hard and all of a sudden all 5 rounds were shot. Hopefully the new parts will correct the issue. They are on order.

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I wonder how hard it would be to find the correct stock? Obviously they did not make all that many with that stock. For a shooter not sure if it really matters but would be nice to have the correct one. 

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I wonder how hard it would be to find the correct stock? Obviously they did not make all that many with that stock. For a shooter not sure if it really matters but would be nice to have the correct one. 

Steve

  

And when you find one it probably won’t look as nice as the one you have. I’d spend the money on ammo and have some fun!

 

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I wonder how hard it would be to find the correct stock? Obviously they did not make all that many with that stock. For a shooter not sure if it really matters but would be nice to have the correct one.  

Nice?  Not nicer looking.  If I had a 74 with the earlier stock, I’d be wanting to swap it for the one you’ve got.

If JWA would tell you how to install a selector switch, you could have a single shooter AND a burp-gun.  For when those big rats at the town dump come at you in packs.

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There were more than 120,000 Model 74s made pre-war with the early style stock so they do come up for sale once in awhile.  They sell in the $100-$150 range.

I would get it running correctly before spending too much on it, just in case the previous “mechanic” did some other unorthodox things to it.

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I am thinking between the very hard trigger and no timing spring it locked up some how into full auto. I would have not thought that the rife could cycle as fast as it did.. I did forget to mention that the trigger spring was on backwards also. I have no idea who worked on this rifle but they sure did not have much common sense. 

Yes I will get it functioning correct before I consider anything else.

At least the 1949 one is very nice and un-molested.

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