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Why Does the Model 77 resemble the J.C. Higgins Model 30
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Did Winchester copy the Higgins (High Standard) design?

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I don’t know for certain, but recall something that one of the inventors used to work at Winchester before going to work with Higgins.

Somebody else may know more about it, a little out of my wheelhouse.

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To the best of my knowledge, the J.C. Higgins Model 30 was the name that Sears & Roebuck used on a semi-auto rim fire rifle made by the High Standard Arms Co.

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Bert H. said
To the best of my knowledge, the J.C. Higgins Model 30 was the name that Sears & Roebuck used on a semi-auto rim fire rifle made by the High Standard Arms Co.
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Yes, very good…….and the question was……..

 

Why Does the Winchester Model 77 resemble the J.C. Higgins Model 30?

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Maverick said
I don’t know for certain, but recall something that one of the inventors used to work at Winchester before going to work with Higgins.

Somebody else may know more about it, a little out of my wheelhouse.

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I understand that the Model 30 came out before the Model 77……..but maybe the man who designed it worked for High Standard and then went to work at Winchester and retained the design rights?

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DancesWithGuns said

I understand that the Model 30 came out before the Model 77……..but maybe the man who designed it worked for High Standard and then went to work at Winchester and retained the design rights?  

I’m uncertain which model came out or was designed first, but assume that your are correct in that regard.

The theory / talk I was referring to was one of Winchester designers going over to High Standard, and not the other way around.

Which the man I recall to have been Fred L. Humeston. He helped design the M1 Carbine while at Winchester. Then my understanding is that in 1949-1950 he went to High Standard. I doubt he would have “retained the design rights” of anything, and may have merely designed the firearm in such a manner as to not infringe up another design. But who knows this for certain, not me and I’m only relaying information I’ve been told. I have not researched this matter and am not claiming to know such things as fact, only here say. 

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