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ok guys,
sunday is last day at denver show…..would like to get a 22.
which one ( model ) would be the best plunker and which one for investment ?
table #1610 if you’re here and have one or know of a good buy.
Bill
November 7, 2015
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Based on my limited experience the 63 is a pretty cool little plinker but I honestly don’t know about investment 22’s. I’ll be studying up on the 52’s and 1890’s for investment prospects and I’m starting to give some serious thought to a Winder musket.
There’s a mind-boggling assortment of Winchester .22’s out there; I ask myself your title question on a regular basis and I’ve come up with more than a few good answers.
Bill,
The best plinker .22 I have is a recently acquired later Model 69A with a grooved receiver. It just feels right in hand………..and they are still a relatively good buy.
Tom
TXGunNut said
Based on my limited experience the 63 is a pretty cool little plinker but I honestly don’t know about investment 22’s. I’ll be studying up on the 52’s and 1890’s for investment prospects and I’m starting to give some serious thought to a Winder musket.There’s a mind-boggling assortment of Winchester .22’s out there; I ask myself your title question on a regular basis and I’ve come up with more than a few good answers.
I love the Model 61, 62, 63’s! Hard to tell what the future holds for investments, but they continue to set “high water” marks when condition is present based on the latest sales numbers. The 61, in particular, has so many configurations. Pre-war, short & long forearm, chambering differences, Octagon & Round, etc.
They are all great shooters and will hold or increase in value as time goes on. IMHO
renegade said
I love the Model 61, 62, 63’s! Hard to tell what the future holds for investments, but they continue to set “high water” marks when condition is present based on the latest sales numbers. The 61, in particular, has so many configurations. Pre-war, short & long forearm, chambering differences, Octagon & Round, etc.
They are all great shooters and will hold or increase in value as time goes on. IMHO
I
tsbccut said
Bill,The best plinker .22 I have is a recently acquired later Model 69A with a grooved receiver. It just feels right in hand………..and they are still a relatively good buy.
Tom
I will second this. The M69 or M69-A comes in many variations and is a very accurate rifle for all uses. The grooved receiver is a bonus. You can scope it without putting holes in it. I own quite a few of these and not a bad one in the bunch. Big Larry
January 26, 2011
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I’m not sure what he ended up with, but Bill was on the move the last couple hours of the show looking for a 22 ………… hope you got that case colored 1890 …… it was a good looking gun.
Great to see you Bill ……….. Cody is next.
~Gary~
I don’t see how you can go wrong with any of the old Winchester .22’s, and while some might be more accurate than others, they are all fun to shoot, but the feel and design of the 1890 is in a class by itself, IMO.
James
A good question and one you probably have answered by now.
Here are my thoughts on the subject.
A “plunker” suggests to me something capable of rattling a magazine’s worth off when you have a target. In that case the M 63 is the premium Winchester semi-auto, the M 74 in short are great fun as is the LR version and if slide actions are your thing Winchesters are the place to be.
Investments are a lot trickier, especially as there are some fantastic fakers around just waiting for your dollar.
Rarity is one of the drivers but it seems condition can be added (recovered) by these guys.
A Single shot (M.85) in .22 are nice to own, as is a Gallery version of one of the slide actions but I think one of the Factory scoped ,22s made before the war have the combination of rarity, good honest workmanship and pride of ownership that could make a good investment.
Here are two M.72s one factory scoped, there is something uniquely American about a tube feed rifle.
November 7, 2015
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Y’all reckon he found something?
TXGunNut said
Y’all reckon he found something?
Yeah, the stainless steel M56 Deluxe we are all looking for. Big Larry
ray said
Here are two M.72s one factory scoped…
Curious about that scope–which power is it?
Thanks to all for the great input on their favorite 22 to search out.
Gary, I went back for the 2nd model case color 1890 and the guy had packed up and was about to leave. Seemed to be around $2700, but not too anxious to find it after all guns had been packed up. His wife was all over him to get out of there. So we left it at that.
My experience gave me more understanding of why you 22 guys are all over the map on these guns !
At the end of the day, and being a traditionalist, it was either the 61 or 1890, and the Browning factor put me in the 1890 category. I’ll be shooting for a case color antique ( 15,553 to 64,748 ) in wrf, long, then short in that order. Condition most important.
Cody’s coming up, so we’ll see unless one of you have something matching the above you want to sell. Send me a pm if so.
That was really a great exercise looking at all the models and their distinctive variations !
A great show doing what we love to do…..
Bill
Big Larry said
Yeah, the stainless steel M56 Deluxe we are all looking for. Big Larry
Ha! You made me snort my beer through my nose with that one! I think you meant the .22 Short stainless M56 Deluxe though……
Best Regards,
PS, I am still planning on stopping in for a visit on my way to Cody if you have room in your driveway for a manly sized Dodge Cummins and can put up with gas station Italian food 😉
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
Blueliner said
Thanks to all for the great input on their favorite 22 to search out.Gary, I went back for the 2nd model case color 1890 and the guy had packed up and was about to leave. Seemed to be around $2700, but not too anxious to find it after all guns had been packed up. His wife was all over him to get out of there. So we left it at that.
My experience gave me more understanding of why you 22 guys are all over the map on these guns !
At the end of the day, and being a traditionalist, it was either the 61 or 1890, and the Browning factor put me in the 1890 category. I’ll be shooting for a case color antique ( 15,553 to 64,748 ) in wrf, long, then short in that order. Condition most important.
Cody’s coming up, so we’ll see unless one of you have something matching the above you want to sell. Send me a pm if so.
That was really a great exercise looking at all the models and their distinctive variations !
A great show doing what we love to do…..
Bill
Bill,
You absolutely cannot go wrong with an 1890, you will love it and it is a great transition gun from the Winchester lever guns since it shares the same graceful lines. Browning also designed the 1900/1902/1904 and his 1890 design was the basis for the 1906 and 62.
We will set the hook on you with the 1890 and then reel you in to the other .22 models………
Glad you enjoyed your time at the show and sorry I couldn’t make it again this year. Hope to see you in Cody.
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
clarence said
Curious about that scope–which power is it?
The scope is unmarked but appears to 2.5
JWA said
Ha! You made me snort my beer through my nose with that one! I think you meant the .22 Short stainless M56 Deluxe though……
Best Regards,
PS, I am still planning on stopping in for a visit on my way to Cody if you have room in your driveway for a manly sized Dodge Cummins and can put up with gas station Italian food 😉
Best Regards,
You have been to my house. It is sitting on a little over and acre. Once my Bro., a long haul trucker, put his 3 axle conventional and a 48″ trailer in my yard. Considerably bigger than a manly Dodge Cummins. The Italian food is great and the best part is the owner is a very good friend. Along with Julie his very beautiful waitress. Lunch WILL be on me this time. Maybe we will have room for Tom. Your bud, Big Larry
November 7, 2015
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Sounds like a good show indeed, Bill. Too bad about the CC 1890 but sometimes it’s not to be, we just don’t know why. I have a certain brown 1890 in 22s eating on me but it’s not going anywhere soon. If it does, another will come along. Seem to recall someone posted about a run of WRF ammo, did you scoop some up?
ray said
The scope is unmarked but appears to 2.5
2-3/4 X was the listed power, but such stats were always approximations. Usually the mounts were marked, but I’ve seen other unmarked ones on ebay.
TXGunNut said
Sounds like a good show indeed, Bill. Too bad about the CC 1890 but sometimes it’s not to be, we just don’t know why. I have a certain brown 1890 in 22s eating on me but it’s not going anywhere soon. If it does, another will come along. Seem to recall someone posted about a run of WRF ammo, did you scoop some up?
Well, the gods were with me.
When I went to pick up my guns from a gun shop owner that transported my guns to/from Denver, there sat an 1890 antique (cc )22S that had just come in. Good color, sharp edges, great, proud wood and a very good bore.
I snatched it up at a lot less than the Denver Show gun !
Go figure…..it was meant to be !
Now, a WRF looms somewhere for me.
Notice a pattern anyone
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