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Straight stock 63
October 16, 2018
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How unusual is a straight stock on a model 63? Does it add anything to the value? I bought this rifle awhile back and until recently never gave it a second thought. And in spite of my poor quality pics it really is a very high condition, original gun.

ETA: SN 121091

 

Mike

 

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I cannot answer your question, but that is a good looking rifle!

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jwm94 said
I cannot answer your question, but that is a good looking rifle!

James  

Thanks, James. My pics don’t do it justice, it looks like a new rifle.

 

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Mike,

I don’t know much about models 63’s, but that’s a nice looking rifle.

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Mike,

A straight gripped Model 63 is a rare, possibly very rare rifle.  Yes, it adds a substantial amount of value to the rifle.  I suspect that a serious Model 63 collector will pay approximately 2X what a regular pistol gripped rifle in that same condition would sell for.

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Thanks, Bert. Turned down an offer for it this weekend. I’m guessing neither of us knew what I had. I think I need to find a serious 63 collector. 😉

 

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October 17, 2018
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Here’s one on  auction right now on GB.. 

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Vince said
Here’s one on  auction right now on GB.. 

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Vince,

That is not a Model 63… it appears to be a Model 1903 (crescent butt plate).

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Bert H. said

Vince,

That is not a Model 63… it appears to be a Model 1903 (crescent butt plate).

Bert  

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Wouldn’t that be a relatively easy wood working project?  If a competent furniture maker took on the project the only tricky part would be getting the finish right.

I think this would have to have a Winchester letter to be accepted.

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Wouldn’t that be a relatively easy wood working project?  If a competent furniture maker took on the project the only tricky part would be getting the finish right.

I think this would have to have a Winchester letter to be accepted.  

 Unlike the gun the letter would be a forgery as Cody only has SNA data for SN’s 51891-57994.

 

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I would like to re-word Mike’s response :

 [Like] the gun the letter would be a forgery [and the gun a fake] as Cody has data for SN’s 51891-57994.

The corollary to the above is :Due to the guns rarity and condition without a Cody letter the gun may be a fake.

Many collectors will shun rarities without reasonable documentation. Some won’t. 

While many on this thread have praised this Model 63’s condition, take a deep breath; witness the recent trend of Model 61 fakes that experts at auction houses (so-called experts?) plus bidders have accepted as originals until proven as fakes by SN documentation. And the lack of Cody records only adds to the lessening of risk to the fakers.

If this Model 63 with a straight stock will market for 2x$, 3x$ (must be economically viable) the standard pistol grip variation, watch for more straight stocked 63s in the future. Sad, but real.

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I would like to re-word Mike’s response :

 [Like] the gun the letter would be a forgery [and the gun a fake] as Cody has data for SN’s……

Merrill  

I’ll stand by my earlier statement, Mr. Walters. If you have some basis for your implications about my character or the originality of this rifle I’d like to know.

 

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It was apparently worth quite a bit more than I suspected and I’m glad it found a new home. 

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/mobile/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=470430

Also sold the almost famous fly-shooter 63 Carbine last month so it seems I no longer own a 63. Proceeds went into a nice 1885 and a Skeet gun.

 

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Hello, I was doing some research and came across this post. I recently found a straight stocked model 63 with a 20” barrel and a checkered stock and forearm. I have taken it to multiple Winchester collectors and they are in awe of it but I have no idea how rare or what it’s worth. Could the original poster or anyone on this follow up with me and let me know what I got and how rare it is. I am not a newbie to rifle collecting, I have many Marlins and Winchesters, and I knew this rifle I got was rare but I’m starting to sense it might be extremely rare. The rifle was made in 1936 per the serial number. Thanks!

 

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