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Big Larry said
cjs57 said
Off topic a bit but a Singer 1911 barrel alone with a poor bore would bring $10,000 easy. Some of my Colt 1911’s have less than perfect bore but I purchase anyway if the price is right. I even have nice Winchester 1886 Extra Light Weight Take Down 45-70 with very fancy wood with tiny .002 bulge in the barrel under the front sight. Got is at less than 1/2 the going rate at the time. I intend to shoot it and see how it shoots.
Talk about thread drift!
Not really. I have a friend with a dead mint 1912 vintage US Property M1911 with a bad bore. He has spent most of his life searching for a nice and proper bbl. to go into that pistol. I also have an old friend with 2 Singers. Don’t know the bore condition, but knowing him, they are both nice. Big Larry
Oh man, thread drift is sometimes irresistible for me 
WWI subcontract M1911’s is an example:
I actually haven’t paid much attention to the bore on this one 
But yeah, to add five (non-Winchester) photos to the thread drift – forgiveness would be appreciated.
steve004 said
WWI subcontract M1911’s is an examplI actually haven’t paid much attention to the bore on this one
Rare gun; never knew Canada had used 1911.
Larry I don’t know what you mean by “Not Really”? I sold a barrel that would be right for your friends 1911 pistol for $2000 but some get $4000 for one. I sold a Singer Magazine for $2000 to a major internet dealer. A correct Singer barrel is worth way more than those.
About thread drift is where we were talking about nice 1890 case colored guns. But it morphed into the ins and outs of bore condition.
clarence said
steve004 said
WWI subcontract M1911’s is an examplI actually haven’t paid much attention to the bore on this one
Rare gun; never knew Canada had used 1911.
It was a U.S. Government contract with North American Arms for M1911 pistols. Not many were manufactured and they are in the same league as Singers as far as rarity. This one is thought to be the very first pistol – the “pilot” pistol – made by NAA. It is marked Ross Rifle Co. on the grip area of the frame as well as “1917” and it has Fred Porter’s (“F.P.”) stamp on it. Fred Porter had been a key employee for Ross Rifle Co. When North American Arms set up in the former Ross Rifle factory, many of the former Ross employees were hired by NAA. After all, they were experienced at making firearms and I’m sure they appreciated the opportunity for a job. No factory letters for any NAA pistols. Lots of fakes out there too! LOTS!
steve004 said
clarence said
steve004 said
WWI subcontract M1911’s is an examplI actually haven’t paid much attention to the bore on this one
Rare gun; never knew Canada had used 1911.
It was a U.S. Government contract with North American Arms for M1911 pistols. Not many were manufactured and they are in the same league as Singers as far as rarity. This one is thought to be the very first pistol – the “pilot” pistol – made by NAA. It is marked Ross Rifle Co. on the grip area of the frame as well as “1917” and it has Fred Porter’s (“F.P.”) stamp on it. Fred Porter had been a key employee for Ross Rifle Co. When North American Arms set up in the former Ross Rifle factory, many of the former Ross employees were hired by NAA. After all, they were experienced at making firearms and I’m sure they appreciated the opportunity for a job. No factory letters for any NAA pistols. Lots of fakes out there too! LOTS!
And, LOTS of thread drift here on my part
I suppose just to sort of bring the topic back, I should refresh my memory of the bore on this one.
steve004 said
steve004 said
clarence said
steve004 said
WWI subcontract M1911’s is an examplI actually haven’t paid much attention to the bore on this one
Rare gun; never knew Canada had used 1911.
It was a U.S. Government contract with North American Arms for M1911 pistols. Not many were manufactured and they are in the same league as Singers as far as rarity. This one is thought to be the very first pistol – the “pilot” pistol – made by NAA. It is marked Ross Rifle Co. on the grip area of the frame as well as “1917” and it has Fred Porter’s (“F.P.”) stamp on it. Fred Porter had been a key employee for Ross Rifle Co. When North American Arms set up in the former Ross Rifle factory, many of the former Ross employees were hired by NAA. After all, they were experienced at making firearms and I’m sure they appreciated the opportunity for a job. No factory letters for any NAA pistols. Lots of fakes out there too! LOTS!
And, LOTS of thread drift here on my part
I suppose just to sort of bring the topic back, I should refresh my memory of the bore on this one.
I just took a peek at the bore. It is excellent 
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Any 1890 with this much case color has a lot of value. I would not hold much against it if the bore was not pristine. I’d clean it as best I could, shoot it a few times and be happy I had it. As we all know 22’s and shotguns got used a lot. I don’t spend a lot of time looking down the barrels of my guns. Yes, I always do before I buy a rifle and always hope for a great bore but you can’t always get everything you want. I’ll take the case color over bore condition.
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