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To push Vince and TxGunNut further into the abyss, and for those other folks wanting to collect the pre-64 Winchester .22’s, here is a summary of the pre-1964 Winchester .22 rim fire models;

1873

1885 / 87

1890 / 90

1900

1902 / 02 / 02A

1903

1904 / 04 / 04A

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47

52 / 52A / 52B / 52C / 52D / 52E

55 (single shot)

56

57

58

59

60 / 60A / 60A Target

61

62 / 62A

63

67 / 67A / 677

68

69 / 69A / 697

72 / 72A

74

75 Target / 75 Sporter

77 Clip / 77 Tube

This list of the basic models does NOT include all of the Winchester catalogued sub-models of which there are at least 166.  And, out of the 166+ catalogued sub-models it does not include the additional hundreds of significant variations to those sub-models.

Feel free to use this as a “shopping list” and welcome to the wonderful world of collecting the Winchester .22 rim fires!  On the bright side, ammo is cheap and you don’t have to buy a lot of expensive reloading paraphernalia………..

 

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Jeff, one of each would make a nice collection!  Thanks for the list!

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Model 1890?

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Oops, forgot that one, thanks.  I fixed the list.

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Oops, forgot that one, thanks.  I fixed the list.

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Y’all just did that because there’s a certain 1890 eating on me at the moment. Wink If I remove that silly garden tub I can make room for at least one more safe, will need it just to get a good start on Winchester rim fires.

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Y’all just did that because there’s a certain 1890 eating on me at the moment. Wink If I remove that silly garden tub I can make room for at least one more safe, will need it just to get a good start on Winchester rim fires.  

There is a perfect safe-sized slot in your kitchen, just get rid of the refrigerator. 

Keep the dishwasher though, it is perfect for washing/steaming gun stocks.

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Y’all just did that because there’s a certain 1890 eating on me at the moment. Wink If I remove that silly garden tub I can make room for at least one more safe, will need it just to get a good start on Winchester rim fires.  

There will be room in the bedroom, as the queen size bed can be replaced with a twin size when the little lady leaves due to our addictive behavior. ?

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Thanks Guys,

I’ve got my first 1890 cc short 2nd antique in hand and now have my eye on three researched ( in person ) 1890/62A’s .

Going to local gun show this afternoon. The 10 groove 61 haunts/daunts me !  Like I need any of them Confused

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JWA said
To push Vince and TxGunNut further into the abyss, and for those other folks wanting to collect the pre-64 Winchester .22’s, here is a summary of the pre-1964 Winchester .22 rim fire models;

1873

1885 / 87

1890

1900

1902

02A

1904

04A

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1906

47

52

52A

52B

52C

52D

52E

55 (single shot)

56

57

58

59

60

60A

60A Target

61

62

62A

63

67

67A

68

69

69A

72

72A

74

74A

75 Target

75 Sporter

77 Clip

77 Tube

This list of the 42 basic models does NOT include the Winchester catalogued sub-models of which there are at least 166 (those are the ones I have been able to find so far).  And, out of the 166 catalogued sub-models it does not include the additional hundreds of variations to those sub-models.

Feel free to use this as a “shopping list” and welcome to the sick world of collecting the Winchester .22 rim fires!  On the bright side, ammo is cheap and you don’t have to buy a lot of expensive reloading paraphernalia………..

 

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You forgot the Model 1903 Surprised

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Dang it, I must really be getting old!  I fixed the list (again) – Thanks

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Dang it, I must really be getting old!  I fixed the list (again) – Thanks

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Jeff,

It happens to the best of us eventually…

Your next task is to list the production numbers for each model.  For the Models 1902/02/02A, 1904/04/04A, 67/67A, 69/69A, etc., a combined total for the model family is acceptable.

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TXGunNut said

Y’all just did that because there’s a certain 1890 eating on me at the moment. Wink If I remove that silly garden tub I can make room for at least one more safe, will need it just to get a good start on Winchester rim fires.  

There is a perfect safe-sized slot in your kitchen, just get rid of the refrigerator. 

Keep the dishwasher though, it is perfect for washing/steaming gun stocks.

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Need a bigger slot, Jeff. I’ve found that the horizontal safes let me stack properly wrapped rifles like cordwood.

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There will be room in the bedroom, as the queen size bed can be replaced with a twin size when the little lady leaves due to our addictive behavior. ?  


Vince

No worries, latest left years ago. Already one safe in the bedroom and a lazy Susan gun rack on a little table. 

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I stack them vertically in the safes alternating muzzle-up and muzzle-down.  All are in socks.  I put a bungy cord across the front so they don’t leap out at me when I open the door.  I have thought about horizontal stacking but would be worried about the weight on the ones on the bottom.

I am still saying the refrigerator slot works great, there is already an outlet behind it for the safe light and goldenrod.  The kitchen counter in front works great for laying things out.  That refrigerator opening just screams “gun safe”! Wink 

Move the refrigerator to the family room, that gets the beer closer to the TV.  It is more Feng Shui that way.

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My vertical safe has too many scoped rifles to do the up/down thing. Might work on the back row but it’s too much work to get back there, no telling what I might find.

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Yeah, the scoped rifles do create a stacking problem and you are right, there are things in the back of my safes that haven’t seen the light of day for awhile. Cry

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I stack them vertically in the safes alternating muzzle-up and muzzle-down.  All are in socks. 

Though I don’t have so many to deal with, I do the same, except using soft cases, so I can pack them tightly without fear of damage.  (But not in a safe–in a concealed closet about the size of a safe, with a false front that looks like shelving.) 

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So if a guy had a nib 1956 model 61 where would be a good place to rehome it and what would be a fare price? 

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First question answer: Possibly my home.

Second question answer: Depends on caliber, barrel type and bore type ( smooth or rifled )

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J.R.,

Gunbroker seems to get the best price online and Rock Island and the other high end live auction houses get top dollar (before they fee you to death).

Condition is important, does it have all the original paperwork?  Do you have a sales receipt? Is the box and end label in good condition?  All of those things add/subtract value in addition to the condition of the firearm.  What is the catalog model number on the box?  Is it a 6101 or a 6116?  The 6116 (22 shot only) brings significantly more money (almost double).

Without the box, in 98-100% condition it is in the $1500-$1600 range.  With the box in excellent condition and all the original paperwork it could go for $2000+

Here is one that just sold for $871, it is obviously less than 98%   http://www.gunbroker.com/item/640911163

And here is one that sold for $1551 http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635300023

And finally, a rifle with counterfeit paperwork, non original box and a few other issues for $2276 http://www.gunbroker.com/item/640357205

Some good clear pictures of yours, including the box will help us narrow the value range for you. 

 

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