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It all started awhile back with a rare win at RIA. I won a Japan made Win 52B but this particular 52B had a front sight mounted as if it had come from the factory. It also come with an older USA made Redfield Golden 5-Star fixed 4x scope mounted in very nice Browning all steel rings/base combo. In the beginning , with the scope mounted I didn’t think much about a receiver sight. Eventually I wanted to see if I could find a rear sight to go with the front.
After several inquires in here I settled on a Lyman 57 WTR. I would have liked to have found a 48F as recommended by people in this forum but I could never find one and the 57 WTR came up for around $50 or so.
Below is the rifle as received from RIA.
Lyman 57 WTR. I did a small writeup on mounting this rear sight because this 57 WTR didn’t come with mounting screws and I had to make two by sanding the heads down to a smaller O.D..
When I received this rifle I was pleasantly surprised at the mounting of the front sight. Definitely professionally installed.
Winchester 52B the day it was sighted in. I don’t remember the adjustment details but I have the zero stop set at 50 yards.
After this I started wanting iron sights for my 52D. I already had the front sight base. I found the Redfield International receiver sight first, then the International front and finally a base to mount the receiver sight. Below is the final results. I’m very happy how both 52’s turned out. Maybe my commentary above and below can be of use to someone in the future who searches the internet for something related to Winchester 52 sights.
This is my first Redfield peep sight. People have told me the International is better than the Olympic but I don’t know what the differences are between the two. People also told me the Lyman 48F was a lot better than the Lyman 57 WTR and after getting the 57 WTR I can see where there’s room for improvement which is what the 48F probably has. Based on this, I decided to heed and value peoples opinions on the International vs. Olympic sights.
I can also say that this .25″ adjustment on this sight is perfect. After going up 20 clicks from 50 yards to hit center at 100 yards, I came back down 20 clicks and it was dead on at 50 yards again.
The base I used is the Winchester W-490 height base. The W-670 is the taller version and I believe would have also worked. Possibly worked better because I couldn’t get the sliding marker high enough to read Zero but only to the 3rd mark “which I’ve made note of”. I’m going to look for another siding marker and if needed increase the slot depth to raise it to zero.
The International front sight is aluminum. I hear the Olympic version is steel. I went with the International mainly just to match the receiver sight
Below is my 100 yard range in the backyard. From the spool to the first set is 50 yards then 75 and then 100.
Below is just a closeup trying to show the position of the 100 yard target I shot at. Of course I used the larger black targets to verify shot placement, the little orange target is 3″ in diameter but was visibly perfect in the front and rear apertures.
The target below is 3″ and it was shot at 100 yards. 5 consecutive shots and 5 hits. I’m very satisfied with the results. FWIW I have noticed on a few scopes and now this peep sight that if I set a zero at 50 yards the adjustment to hit at 100 yards is approximately 20 turns up with 1/4″ increments. That only equals a 5″ drop with Std Velocity ammo.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my recent projects and to say thanks to all who shared their knowledge and offered input, especially on the 52B.
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
November 7, 2015
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Thanks for the range report, glad you got it all put together and working.
Mike
Thanks Mike. I don’t believe I’ll ever figure out the correct way to post photos.
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
Kisssofdeath said
Thanks Mike. I don’t believe I’ll ever figure out the correct way to post photos.
Nothing wrong with what you’ve done, but the location on the page at which the photo program inserts an image is sometimes hard to control, & multiple images get really complicated. If you don’t like the initial arrangement, you can try rearranging text & images with the editing option, though I don’t think it’s worth wasting too much time on.
clarence said
Kisssofdeath said
Thanks Mike. I don’t believe I’ll ever figure out the correct way to post photos.
Nothing wrong with what you’ve done, but the location on the page at which the photo program inserts an image is sometimes hard to control, & multiple images get really complicated. If you don’t like the initial arrangement, you can try rearranging text & images with the editing option, though I don’t think it’s worth wasting too much time on.
You are correct. I’ll leave it as is because by the time I got done with the edit, the entire forum would be down. lol.
I do want to give credit to Steve Earl Products for the base used to mount the Redfield International sight to the receiver. This base was purchased at full retail price and I’m not a shill for him. I’m giving him credit for having this base and other products for the Win 52, Rem 40X and other vintage guns. I won’t post his website because I’m not familiar with the forum rules. But he is easily searched by his name. We as a gun community should actually be thankful Steve is making these types of products for us.
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
Kisssofdeath said
We as a gun community should actually be thankful Steve is making these types of products for us.
Impossible to say TOO much good about him! For making so many otherwise unobtainable parts available again. The great mystery is how he finds the time to do so much.
Kisssofdeath said
It all started awhile back with a rare win at RIA. I won a Japan made Win 52B but this particular 52B had a front sight mounted as if it had come from the factory. It also come with an older USA made Redfield Golden 5-Star fixed 4x scope mounted in very nice Browning all steel rings/base combo. In the beginning , with the scope mounted I didn’t think much about a receiver sight. Eventually I wanted to see if I could find a rear sight to go with the front.After several inquires in here I settled on a Lyman 57 WTR. I would have liked to have found a 48F as recommended by people in this forum but I could never find one and the 57 WTR came up for around $50 or so.
Below is the rifle as received from RIA.
Lyman 57 WTR. I did a small writeup on mounting this rear sight because this 57 WTR didn’t come with mounting screws and I had to make two by sanding the heads down to a smaller O.D..
When I received this rifle I was pleasantly surprised at the mounting of the front sight. Definitely professionally installed.
Winchester 52B the day it was sighted in. I don’t remember the adjustment details but I have the zero stop set at 50 yards.
After this I started wanting iron sights for my 52D. I already had the front sight base. I found the Redfield International receiver sight first, then the International front and finally a base to mount the receiver sight. Below is the final results. I’m very happy how both 52’s turned out. Maybe my commentary above and below can be of use to someone in the future who searches the internet for something related to Winchester 52 sights.
This is my first Redfield peep sight. People have told me the International is better than the Olympic but I don’t know what the differences are between the two. People also told me the Lyman 48F was a lot better than the Lyman 57 WTR and after getting the 57 WTR I can see where there’s room for improvement which is what the 48F probably has. Based on this, I decided to heed and value peoples opinions on the International vs. Olympic sights.
I can also say that this .25″ adjustment on this sight is perfect. After going up 20 clicks from 50 yards to hit center at 100 yards, I came back down 20 clicks and it was dead on at 50 yards again.
The base I used is the Winchester W-490 height base. The W-670 is the taller version and I believe would have also worked. Possibly worked better because I couldn’t get the sliding marker high enough to read Zero but only to the 3rd mark “which I’ve made note of”. I’m going to look for another siding marker and if needed increase the slot depth to raise it to zero.
The International front sight is aluminum. I hear the Olympic version is steel. I went with the International mainly just to match the receiver sight
Below is my 100 yard range in the backyard. From the spool to the first set is 50 yards then 75 and then 100.
Below is just a closeup trying to show the position of the 100 yard target I shot at. Of course I used the larger black targets to verify shot placement, the little orange target is 3″ in diameter but was visibly perfect in the front and rear apertures.
The target below is 3″ and it was shot at 100 yards. 5 consecutive shots and 5 hits. I’m very satisfied with the results. FWIW I have noticed on a few scopes and now this peep sight that if I set a zero at 50 yards the adjustment to hit at 100 yards is approximately 20 turns up with 1/4″ increments. That only equals a 5″ drop with Std Velocity ammo.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my recent projects and to say thanks to all who shared their knowledge and offered input, especially on the 52B.
Congratulations! Your effort was rewarded. I enjoy shooting with peep sights myself.
Thanks Private Smith. Also, I might be starting another project but I’d like to know if anyone can positively identify this Lyman rear sight.
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
Kisssofdeath said
Thanks Private Smith. Also, I might be starting another project but I’d like to know if anyone can positively identify this Lyman rear sight.
Lyman 48 F.
Thanks Clarence. I been out of town for several days so I’m just now seeing your reply. That’s the sight I was hoping it was.
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
My peep sight mission is not complete. I ended up getting that Lyman 48 F shown above. I put it on my 52B Sporter and the front sight ends up being too low, I’m out of adjustment on the rear. I have to go with a taller front sight regardless so I bought a Lyman 17A globe sight. This height worked but I really don’t like the overhang the sight has on the sight base.
Having said all that, my question is does anyone make a front globe peep sight that will fit the 3/8″ dovetail that has a width of .365″ +/- .005″. Or anything close to that?
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
Kisssofdeath said
My peep sight mission is not complete. I ended up getting that Lyman 48 F shown above. I put it on my 52B Sporter and the front sight ends up being too low, I’m out of adjustment on the rear. I have to go with a taller front sight regardless so I bought a Lyman 17A globe sight. This height worked but I really don’t like the overhang the sight has on the sight base.Having said all that, my question is does anyone make a front globe peep sight that will fit the 3/8″ dovetail that has a width of .365″ +/- .005″. Or anything close to that?
Why does it have to be a globe? They serve no useful purpose except bullseye target shooting with an aperture insert. The best front sight for it would be a Win 93 B, & Ben Tolson probably has one he can sell you.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/where-to-eat-in-cody/
Well, it doesn’t have to be a globe front but I do like the insert aperture options you have with those. I’ll take a look at the Win 93 B and see how it may look mounted.
More than likely I’ll just get a taller Marbles front sight with the 1/16″ Ivory bead and be done with it. Here’s a photo of the 48 F on the 52B. And I must say it is a much better sight than the 57 WTR. Also, I thought the barrel had been D and T’ed for the front ramp and held with a screw but appears it hasn’t. I wonder if it’s super glued on lol.
Win 52 Pre A = Basket Case
Win 52B Repro = Is what it is
Win 52D = Pristine
Kisssofdeath said
Well, it doesn’t have to be a globe front but I do like the insert aperture options you have with those. I’ll take a look at the Win 93 B and see how it may look mounted.
For shooting bullseyes, nothing is superior to an ap, but that’s too boring for me. The 93 A/B was the original sight designed for 52s, & I know of only one other that provides as sharp & easy to see aiming point.
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