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I bought 2 Model 52’s and robbed the scope off one and put it on the other.  What a pain setting up these Lyman Super Target Spots.  They are so long I can’t get behind the gun to look through the scope and then reach the other end to focus.  Thought I had it set up in the garage but when I went and tried to shoot it I couldn’t even hit the target at 100 yds.  I could put holes in my PVC target stand though.  Moved back to 50 yds and was able to hit paper below the target.  The reticle needs more adjustment and so does the focus.  Here is the target at 50 yds.  You can see at the bottom in the middle where I gradually moved up the target.  Then I shot at the bottom left target.  The last 5 shots were at the upper left target.  The 2 holes on the bottom right target are from a couple rounds that my partner was shooting just to see how my rifle shot them.

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I bought 2 Model 52’s and robbed the scope off one and put it on the other.  What a pain setting up these Lyman Super Target Spots.  They are so long I can’t get behind the gun to look through the scope and then reach the other end to focus.Chuck said

Now you know why Fecker placed the adjustment in the CENTER of the tube.  STSs are very aggravating to adjust.  Another convenience he offered was having every scope expertly adjusted for several diff ranges by a trained optician, then the index numbers recorded for each range on a card serialized with the scope.  The range markings on other scopes are never more than an approximation, a starting point, & sometimes the starting point is way off from the finishing point.

Which model did you buy?

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I bought 2 Model 52’s and robbed the scope off one and put it on the other.  What a pain setting up these Lyman Super Target Spots.  They are so long I can’t get behind the gun to look through the scope and then reach the other end to focus.Chuck said

Now you know why Fecker placed the adjustment in the CENTER of the tube.  STSs are very aggravating to adjust.  Another convenience he offered was having every scope expertly adjusted for several diff ranges by a trained optician, then the index numbers recorded for each range on a card serialized with the scope.  The range markings on other scopes are never more than an approximation, a starting point, & sometimes the starting point is way off from the finishing point.

Which model did you buy?

  

I had about 10 Feckers and not one had the card. I wonder if any exist after all these years. I have never had a problem adjusting my 20X STS on my M52’s or 40X’s. Big Larry

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Big Larry said I had about 10 Feckers and not one had the card. I wonder if any exist after all these years. I have never had a problem adjusting my 20X STS on my M52’s or 40X’s. Big Larry  

The cards were no doubt lost when the scopes were sold or traded, owners died, etc., like most other gun parts separated from the guns they were sold with.  It’s what usually happens to Lyman 48 slides when they’re removed to mount a low-slung scope; most are permanently lost.  Or bolt-actions missing their original bolts because some previous owner thought no thief would steal the gun if it lacked the bolt.

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True.  I have what’s left of a hard–to-find Savage 99-T .. the bare receiver with barrel, the lever, and the buttplate.

A thief, some treacherous employee of a contractor, stole the buttstock and all the other internal parts, in a soft rifle case. Because he thought it was a whole rifle, I suppose.  

With luck he has died slowly of metastatic penile cancer. 

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Man, it would seem Clarence has been there and done that. Over the years, I have seen many M52’s

and M75’s missing their staffs. I have had to replace a few as well. Luckily, the one scarce one in my M52 collection, a right side mounted Lyman 48T, still has all its matching numbers. It would be near impossible to replace. Big Larry

 

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Looks like it’s a shooter, Chuck! Which ammo were you shooting?

 

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Looks like it’s a shooter, Chuck!

If you’re shooting offhand.  From the bench at 50 yds, the group should be covered by a dime, which as an experienced BR shooter, Chuck knows better than I.  Trouble with an unfamiliar scope & rifle is the problem.

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A 20X on top of just about any heavy bbl. M52, should be capable of dime size groups at 100 yards benched. Good ammo of course. My M52-C BULLGUN was my best shooter and I sold it. DUH !!!  Big Larry

 

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Both Model 52’s are pre A speed locks.  The one I was shooting was made in 1934 and has the heavy target barrel.  I will move it to 100 when I get the scope clearer. I was shooting PMC Target.  But, the other gun, before I robbed the scope, didn’t really care about the ammo and shot real well at 100.  I shot ammo as old as 1950’s to CCI standard velocity and it shot the same. Pretty good for me.   I looked and I must have thrown the other targets away?  Shooting these guns are real fun and will teach me to hold my rifle better.  I can see some barrel movement when I pull the trigger.  I’m not jerking the trigger and the triggers are smooth, it’s me.

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Big Larry said
A 20X on top of just about any heavy bbl. M52, should be capable of dime size groups at 100 yards benched. Good ammo of course. My M52-C BULLGUN was my best shooter and I sold it. DUH !!!  Big Larry

 

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Larry, you may be correct but remember, it’s me behind the rifle.  It may rain next week so it might be awhile before I get back to the range.

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Chuck said I can see some barrel movement when I pull the trigger.  I’m not jerking the trigger and the triggers are smooth, it’s me.
  

There’s a trigger pull adjustment screw you can see with the bolt removed.  May be possible to reduce pull slightly by turning it clockwise, if the very small head hasn’t been buggered.  Supposed to be set for about 3 lbs.  The heavy-wt brl model is fairly scare. 

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Thanks Clarence.  I know about the adjustment screw and may mess with it down the road.  I’ve had the bolts out many times but never thought to look at the screw.  I thought the standard 28″ barrel was fairly heavy until I got the heavy barrel.  I just looked at the screw in the heavy barrel.  Been used but looks good enough unless something is stuck.  I am hoping the heavy barrel helps settle me down.

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