Hello. First time posting.
I have a Model 62 serial 44235A that I have a couple of questions about. It was given to my father around 1936 or 1937 according to my late mother. My father passed at a young age and I was not able to discuss this gun with him. It is a 22 Short model as indicted on the barrel. The magazine tube loading port is bullet shaped and is .75” in length. This length is just right for a short but too short for a L or LR unless they are fed in at an angle. This seems to contradict information on the Homestead site that states that a 22 Short only pre war gun should have a triangle shaped loading port. The serial numbers of both halves of the gun are a match. Another issue is with the carrier. This gun has a carrier that is made for only LR shells. I have not seen any reference to a LR only carrier. Only the Short only or the one that accommodated all three. The ones I see online that fit all three shell sizes appear to have some sort of pivoting tip on the carrier that I believe controls this function. My carrier has a fixed tip and a slot deep enough to fit a LR. If a S or L is put in the magazine, the carrier will allow one complete shell plus a partial second one into the slot. When this happens, the carrier can not lift the shell as the partial one jams. So it appears as though someone has changed the carrier in the past to accommodate the LR shells. That would have been done prior to 1960. The carrier does not look modified but if it was, it was done very well by a good machinist.
I have seen Short only and S/L/LR carriers for sale but not a LR only one.
Is anyone aware of a LR only carrier?
What about the bullet shaped loading port?
The serial number 44235A shows up on this site as a 1936 but on another site it shows as a 1937 with serial numbers 42763 – 66063 for 1937. Any input is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
The model 1890 had long rifle carriers, (which will interchange with 62’s and 1906 models) they were the only carriers that were marked and that was done by stamping LR on the carrier. I would check to see if a long rifle shell fits the chamber on the rifle. It may have been rechambered from short to long rifle. If that is the case, do not expect much for accuracy. The 22 short only barrels have a 1-20 twist rate to stabilize the little 29 grain bullet. The long rifle uses a 1-16 twist for a 40 grain bullet. Consequently the 1-20 twist rate does not do well with the 40 grain bullets. I have seen the short only mag tube you describe, the triangular ports were used in actual gallery guns to accept the loading tubes.
Thank you for the information. The carrier has some markings. The carrier lever partially blocks what looks to be a triangle. Below that is the number 14. The barrel is a 1-20 twist and it must have been bored to accept a LR as one will drop in easily up to the last 1/16″. I have shot hundreds of LR rounds through it over the last 50+ years. So now the question is what to do with it? I am going to shoot it occasionally nostalgic reasons. Does the boring for LR effect the accuracy of shorts? I think that I will fill the back end of the carrier slot with a removable substance so that it will take shorts only. Shorts are fun to shoot and if they are the most accurate in this gun that is what I will use. I do have some but I have no idea about the availability of those these days. Thanks again for the input.
If you want to use shorts, you can change out the lifter to one that came out of a 1906 or 62 that has the cartridge stop built in the nose. On the other hand I have heard of guys putting a removeable spacer in the lifter so the cartridges don’t try to double feed. I wouldn’t lose any sleep over the chamber length, Winchester made lots of 22’s that accept shorts longs and long rifles. Without question, a rifle that is chambered caliber specific will be more accurate. (1890 as an example) It’s simply a matter of versatility vs. accuracy.
Something else you can try, Aquila makes Long Rifle ammo in 30 and 35 grain which may shoot better than 40 grain.