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May 2, 2016 - 1:39 am
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Hi…I’m new to this board. I just picked up my first model 61 last week and I have a question about the forearm, but first, Michael’s preliminaries:

S/n is 56159, no letter below. Round barrel, 22 S.L. or L.R., receiver is not grooved, 2 tang screws present, metal butt plate. An online website says this gun was manufactured in 1941 (so, pre-war). The 2015 Standard Catalog of Firearms, page 1349 says the pre-war guns had a short forearm. Another website says the short forearms were approx 6 inches long. Mine, however is 8.25 inches long. The 2 main takedown parts of the gun were not switched, as the 2 serial numbers match. Is it possible a later model forearm was put on this? Are the shorter and longer forearms interchangeable? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Your forearm is correct for a gun made in 1941. The earlier 11 groove forearm was changed to 17 grooves in 1939. I have a early gun in the 18000 range with the early forearm and one in the 51000 range(1940) that has the later 17 groove forearm. The tapped holes in the tang are also correct for your gun as this changed in 1942 when Winchester quit tapping the tangs. Your steel buttplate and non grooved receiver fit into this 1941 era as well and the plastic buttplates(around 1957) and grooved receivers(1954) aren’t seen until the 50’s

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Johnohio – Thanks for your information.

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ScottyW said
Hi…I’m new to this board. I just picked up my first model 61 last week and I have a question about the forearm, but first, Michael’s preliminaries:

S/n is 56159, no letter below. Round barrel, 22 S.L. or L.R., receiver is not grooved, 2 tang screws present, metal butt plate. An online website says this gun was manufactured in 1941 (so, pre-war). The 2015 Standard Catalog of Firearms, page 1349 says the pre-war guns had a short forearm. Another website says the short forearms were approx 6 inches long. Mine, however is 8.25 inches long. The 2 main takedown parts of the gun were not switched, as the 2 serial numbers match. Is it possible a later model forearm was put on this? Are the shorter and longer forearms interchangeable? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.  

Hello Scotty,

I just found your question regarding the Model 61 fore end.  Regretfully, I have not tracked that item in my survey but will refer to reference book by Ned Schwing who describes the change over to have occurred during 1939 when “Manufacturing Change Order #14,107” was issued.  The new sized slide handle appears in the 1940 catalogs.  The serial number range of the change is roughly 42,000.  

I have entered your rifle into my survey.  Any chance there is a small “W” stamped about 2 inches below the serial number?

Thanks so much

Michael

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