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March 6, 2023 - 6:02 pm

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Please welcome a newbie into the fold. I have had this lever action .22 since I was in high school, but I am not well informed about it, or guns in general. Why am I not seeing references to a Winchester Model 250 in this forum? Too pedestrian for collectors? Winchester250b-small.jpgImage EnlargerWinchester250a-small.jpgImage Enlarger

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March 6, 2023 - 7:24 pm

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The primary reason that you are not finding any reference to it on the WACA website is because our primary focus is on the “Pre-1964” production Winchester Models. Your Model 250 (one of the variants of the Model 200) is a post-1963 production rifle.  They were manufactured from the mid 1960s to early 1970s.

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March 6, 2023 - 11:45 pm

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I bought one a few years ago and gave it to my son. He shoots it a lot.

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March 7, 2023 - 12:18 am

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Bert, thanks for the reply. I appreciate the group’s focus now that I am learning more. Regards, WhaleDancer. 

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March 7, 2023 - 12:34 am

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Welcome WhaleDancer!

The Winchester Model 250 was actually introduced in the early 1963 catalog along with the companion models 270 and 290 so it is technically a pre-64 rifle.

It is not really addressed by mainstream Winchester collectors because that series of rifles was part of the overhaul of the Winchester .22 line using more cost effective components and manufacturing techniques which were not embraced by the collecting community due to the lowering of the perceived quality of the firearms.  Some examples would be the use of impressed checkering instead of the earlier cut checkering, brown or black Cycolac instead of walnut fore stocks, some alloy components instead of steel, etc., etc.

None of the above mean they do not function well, they are simply not the “old school” quality that collectors desire.

Hope that helps.

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March 7, 2023 - 12:51 am

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Bert H. said
The primary reason that you are not finding any reference to it on the WACA website is because our primary focus is on the “Pre-1964” production Winchester Models. Your Model 250 (one of the variants of the Model 200) is a post-1963 production rifle.  They were manufactured from the mid 1960s to early 1970s.

Bert

  

I would think as an organization, WACA  would welcome new members of the Winchester collecting world, not tell them We don’t care about Your “NEW” Winchester. “It’s not our primary focus”, shouldn’t be a club motto. There are alot of people today collecting n 1960’s and 70’s Winchesters.

Dana

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March 7, 2023 - 1:07 am

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Hey everyone, I feel very welcome, and Bert’s comment was informative. No worries. Cool 

Truth is, the rifle is jamming (irregularly but frequently) and I suspect it has to do with some of the design and manufacturing adjustments Winchester made in releasing the associated models. I’m not personally interested in going deep into rifle repair, so I am hoping to find some advice about whether/how to get this fixed. Bert’s nearby, so I’ll pick up that conversation with him offline. 

Best to all, 

WhaleDancer 

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March 7, 2023 - 1:10 am

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dane62 said

Bert H. said

The primary reason that you are not finding any reference to it on the WACA website is because our primary focus is on the “Pre-1964” production Winchester Models. Your Model 250 (one of the variants of the Model 200) is a post-1963 production rifle.  They were manufactured from the mid 1960s to early 1970s.

Bert

  

I would think as an organization, WACA  would welcome new members of the Winchester collecting world, not tell them We don’t care about Your “NEW” Winchester. “It’s not our primary focus”, shouldn’t be a club motto. There are alot of people today collecting n 1960’s and 70’s Winchesters.

Dana

  

Dana,

At NO time did I state “We don’t care about Your “NEW” Winchester”… you are putting words into my mouth that I did not utter, and you reading way too much into what I actually wrote.  In the future, if you have an issue with what I say on this forum, please contact me personally.  Otherwise, your opinions in this matter will be deleted.

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March 7, 2023 - 1:28 am

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I didn’t put words in your mouth. I copied them as you wrote them. Now you are putting words in my mouth.

If I don’t know the answer to a question, I wait for someone who does. 

You can delete my comments anytime you like. 

 

Dana

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March 7, 2023 - 2:47 am

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dane62 said
I didn’t put words in your mouth. I copied them as you wrote them. Now you are putting words in my mouth.

If I don’t know the answer to a question, I wait for someone who does. 

You can delete my comments anytime you like. 

 

Dana

  

Read Post #7 word for word for what YOU wrote…  You positively did not “copy” my words.

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March 7, 2023 - 3:23 am

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Welcome to the club. I collect Winchester 22 all years, and shoot them all. The 200 series are really fun guns. Your example is very nice. It even has the filler piece between the barrel and the tube magazine, most are without.

The problem your having might be solved with a thorough cleaning.

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March 7, 2023 - 3:46 am

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March 7, 2023 - 3:55 am

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Welcome, WhaleDancer! I agree with Vince, start with a good cleaning. Even these later Winchesters have had plenty of time to accumulate gunk. Congrats on starting your collection with a .22, took me a few years to discover just how much fun these Winchester .22’s are! Your 250 is one of the nicer ones I’ve seen.

 

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March 8, 2023 - 4:59 pm

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Vince said
Welcome to the club. I collect Winchester 22 all years, and shoot them all. The 200 series are really fun guns. Your example is very nice. It even has the filler piece between the barrel and the tube magazine, most are without.

The problem your having might be solved with a thorough cleaning.

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Thanks, Vince. I had noticed the difference in my rifle’s forearm and most examples. Good to have your comment confirming. The “thorough cleaning” is good advice and where I started. I honestly had never pulled the lever action out of the receiver before. I hadn’t paid attention to this gun since I was in college. Learning now, though. 

Regards, 

WhaleDancer 

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March 8, 2023 - 5:01 pm

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TXGunNut said
Welcome, WhaleDancer! I agree with Vince, start with a good cleaning. Even these later Winchesters have had plenty of time to accumulate gunk. Congrats on starting your collection with a .22, took me a few years to discover just how much fun these Winchester .22’s are! Your 250 is one of the nicer ones I’ve seen.

 

Mike

  

Thanks, Mike! I’m not sure my “collection” will grow, but I do plan to enjoy shooting again. 

Whale Dancer 

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March 8, 2023 - 7:49 pm

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Hello,

I am trying to understand the comment on the “filler piece between the barrell and the tube magazine”.

If I am looking in the right place, the 250 that belongs to Whale Dancer does not have the filler (picture at the beginning of the thread).

The deluxe gun in the link to GunBroker instead has the filler., I think.

Whale Dancer, why do you think your forearm is different from the standard ?  To me, it looks like a correct standard forearm for this model.  What I am missing ?

Thank you in advance.

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March 9, 2023 - 4:34 pm

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Hello,

I am trying to understand the comment on the “filler piece between the barrell and the tube magazine”.

If I am looking in the right place, the 250 that belongs to Whale Dancer does not have the filler (picture at the beginning of the thread).

The deluxe gun in the link to GunBroker instead has the filler., I think.

Whale Dancer, why do you think your forearm is different from the standard ?  To me, it looks like a correct standard forearm for this model.  What I am missing ?

Thank you in advance.

  

Hi Cowboy. 

I think we are mistaken, and that you have it correct. The only “fill” between my barrel and tube magazine is the wooden forearm. In mine, that piece is drilled through for the tube magazine, with a hidden plastic spacer that uses the magazine to lock the forearm to the barrel. Not an ideal connection, because the forearm loosened up substantially over the years. 

Best, 

WhaleDancer 

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March 9, 2023 - 10:08 pm

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Cowboy4 said
Hello,

I am trying to understand the comment on the “filler piece between the barrell and the tube magazine”.

If I am looking in the right place, the 250 that belongs to Whale Dancer does not have the filler (picture at the beginning of the thread).

The deluxe gun in the link to GunBroker instead has the filler., I think.

Whale Dancer, why do you think your forearm is different from the standard ?  To me, it looks like a correct standard forearm for this model.  What I am missing ?

Thank you in advance.

  

My mistake, referred to the wrong picture 

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March 10, 2023 - 7:22 pm

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Thank you both for clarifying.

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