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Hello,
I’m new to the forum. I joined because I have an interest in the Winchester Model 1890 & 1906 rifles.
I have a question regarding a Model 1890 22 cal rifle that is in the 767000 serial number range. The serial # lookup on this site indicates the rifle dates to 1927. Ned Schwing’s book does not list dates beyond 1927, so that seems to agree with his data. However, I do understand some rifles were assembled later than that date.
I have found another site that shows the date for this rifle to be 1941. http://guncollectionsonline.com/winchester1890.htm
However, I noticed that many of the dates shown on that site do not agree with the ones shown in Schwing’s book. I was confused and hoping someone could help with the date of manufacture for a rifle in the 767000 serial range.
Thanks,
Dan
Dan,
Depending on what the last three digits of the serial number are, the rifle you are asking about was either manufactured in December 1927 or January 1928. The website where you found with the 1941 date does not have accurate information.
Winchester ended regular production of the Model 90 and 06 in early June 1932 at serial number 846022. Parts clean-up production ended on November 23, 1949 at serial number 854747. In March of 1926, Winchester merged the serial numbers for the Model 06 in with the Model 90 serial number range (beginning at S/N 713200). For an unknown reason, Ned Schwing did not discuss that in his otherwise superb books.
I (with the assistance of a fellow WACA member) am currently conducting a research survey specifically documenting all serial numbers in the 713200 – 854757 range. I will use the survey results to determine the statistical production breakdown for the 141,548 shared serial numbers, and write an article discussing the post March 1926 production of both models. Accordingly, I would appreciate it if you can provide the complete serial number, and which specific .22 cartridge the rifle is chambered for.
Bert – WACA Historian
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert,
Thank you for that explanation. I appreciate it very much and will send you a PM with the information requested.
Dan
Bert,
Maybe you will receive this post after several
years since the one I am responding to.
I found this forum while searching for info on a couple of Winchesters I own. I read your post on the model 90 .22 LR rifle. I inherited one from my father that was his when he was growing up. I learned to shoot rifles with this rifle, and I still use this rifle occasionally, serial #823702. I hope this serial number helps your study.
I also inherited a Model 94 .30-.30, serial #1267104. It was my grandfather’s deer rifle. I still use this rifle deer hunting and shot my first deer with it.
I’ve tried to find manufacture accurate manufacture dates but have been left somewhat confused by Winchester dating.
Wiley Clarkson said
Bert,Maybe you will receive this post after several
years since the one I am responding to.
I found this forum while searching for info on a couple of Winchesters I own. I read your post on the model 90 .22 LR rifle. I inherited one from my father that was his when he was growing up. I learned to shoot rifles with this rifle, and I still use this rifle occasionally, serial #823702. I hope this serial number helps your study.
I also inherited a Model 94 .30-.30, serial #1267104. It was my grandfather’s deer rifle. I still use this rifle deer hunting and shot my first deer with it.
I’ve tried to find manufacture accurate manufacture dates but have been left somewhat confused by Winchester dating.
Hello Wiley,
Your Model 90 was manufactured December 19th, 1929.
Your Model 94 was manufactured in February 1941. Does it have a “W” stamped below the serial number?
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn’t sure if you would be around two years after the original post. The 94 does have a W in the serial number. I had never noticed the W before in all the years I have had that rifle.
November 7, 2015
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Bert? Around? He lives here, even when he’s supposed to be working on that book we’re so eagerly awaiting. The “W” denotes a program where they were testing a new receiver bluing process.
Mike
Wiley Clarkson said
Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn’t sure if you would be around two years after the original post. The 94 does have a W in the serial number. I had never noticed the W before in all the years I have had that rifle.
As Mike mentioned, I am a permanent denizen of the WACA organization and website.
The “W” stamped on the bottom of your Model 94 receiver was a standard marking on nearly all of the Model 94 Carbines and Model 64 Rifles manufactured in the February 1939 – February 1941 time period (serial number range 1203500 – 1267600). The stamp was applied as a bluing quality control check.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Dan,Depending on what the last three digits of the serial number are, the rifle you are asking about was either manufactured in December 1927 or January 1928. The website where you found with the 1941 date does not have accurate information.
Winchester ended regular production of the Model 90 and 06 in early June 1932 at serial number 846022. Parts clean-up production ended on November 23, 1949 at serial number 854747. In March of 1926, Winchester merged the serial numbers for the Model 06 in with the Model 90 serial number range (beginning at S/N 713200). For an unknown reason, Ned Schwing did not discuss that in his otherwise superb books.
I (with the assistance of a fellow WACA member) am currently conducting a research survey specifically documenting all serial numbers in the 713200 – 854757 range. I will use the survey results to determine the statistical production breakdown for the 141,548 shared serial numbers, and write an article discussing the post March 1926 production of both models. Accordingly, I would appreciate it if you can provide the complete serial number, and which specific .22 cartridge the rifle is chambered for.
Bert – WACA Historian
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