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Just saw this on GI. Looks like a pretty spectacular piece. What is the lowest known serial number for the model 1890?
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I am wondering if this barrel should have the broken D? I have never seen one this early but all solid frames under about 14,000 that I have seen had the broken D in the word Manufactured. These early barrels were about 3/8″ longer too. 24-3/8″.
Serial number 1 does exist, it sold many years ago at an auction somewhere. I have seen pictures of it, and also have seen number 2! This gun (supposedly #89) should not have the “Broken D” that die break happened somewhere around serial number 500. I have owned guns in the 300 range with the “D” complete, and some in the 600 range with the “D” broken. HOWEVER, in my opinion the barrel on this rifle is a late 1st model/early 2nd model type 24-3/8″ barrel. The font is slightly larger than the early marking often seen with the “broken D”. Correct for 13,000 SN and up to 100,000 roughly (my estimate). Also suspect on this #89 is the serial number font. The serial number just looks odd with no serifs. See #398 below that I used to own for comparison. Given this #89 is refinished, who knows what all has been done to it. I will say that the other receiver and tang markings do look correct.
For the subject gun on Guns Intl with serial number 89 and Austin’s serial number 398 above, the serial number is placed on the bottom of the frame.
I have a 1st model 1890 with SN 784 as pictured below and the SN is on the lower tang. Note also that it has the broken “D” in MANUFACTURED.
Your thoughts?
Thanks.
jolly bill said
For the subject gun on Guns Intl with serial number 89 and Austin’s serial number 398 above, the serial number is placed on the bottom of the frame.I have a 1st model 1890 with SN 784 as pictured below and the SN is on the lower tang. Note also that it has the broken “D” in MANUFACTURED.
Your thoughts?
Thanks.
My thoughts are, that is one beautiful rifle. Mine has a movie star connection, although not provable. How have you been Bill? I’m into M06’s now. Big Larry
Big Larry said Mine has a movie star connection, although not provable.
Name names. We’ll take your word.
Big Larry said
jolly bill said
For the subject gun on Guns Intl with serial number 89 and Austin’s serial number 398 above, the serial number is placed on the bottom of the frame.
I have a 1st model 1890 with SN 784 as pictured below and the SN is on the lower tang. Note also that it has the broken “D” in MANUFACTURED.
Your thoughts?
Thanks.
My thoughts are, that is one beautiful rifle. Mine has a movie star connection, although not provable. How have you been Bill? I’m into M06’s now. Big Larry
I have been doing fine Larry. I hope the same with you.
Yeah, I noticed you’re into the 1906’s. And you have some dandies. Good for you.
Bill
clarence said
Big Larry said Mine has a movie star connection, although not provable.
Name names. We’ll take your word.
Rifle was a gift from Mrs. Dolly Strahlman in 1959. Her name was different in the movies. She was a stunt double for Mary Pickford and one of Max Sennets Bathing Beauties. Her husband was Chief Surgeon on the San Diego Police Dept. When I was around 16 years old, I used to deliver her meds from the pharmacy I worked at. She gave me a 1907 vintage M1890 for helping her around her house. Her bio is on the Internet. She was quite a lady. Big Larry
Now there is an interesting provenance story, hope you have that written down for your Grandson!
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
Big Larry said
Rifle was a gift from Mrs. Dolly Strahlman in 1959. Her name was different in the movies. She was a stunt double for Mary Pickford and one of Max Sennets Bathing Beauties. Her husband was Chief Surgeon on the San Diego Police Dept. When I was around 16 years old, I used to deliver her meds from the pharmacy I worked at. She gave me a 1907 vintage M1890 for helping her around her house. Her bio is on the Internet. She was quite a lady. Big Larry
She had to be good to work for Mary Pickford, who demanded & got the best people the studio could provide for her films.
Austin said
Serial number 1 does exist, it sold many years ago at an auction somewhere. I have seen pictures of it, and also have seen number 2! This gun (supposedly #89) should not have the “Broken D” that die break happened somewhere around serial number 500. I have owned guns in the 300 range with the “D” complete, and some in the 600 range with the “D” broken. HOWEVER, in my opinion the barrel on this rifle is a late 1st model/early 2nd model type 24-3/8″ barrel. The font is slightly larger than the early marking often seen with the “broken D”. Correct for 13,000 SN and up to 100,000 roughly (my estimate). Also suspect on this #89 is the serial number font. The serial number just looks odd with no serifs. See #398 below that I used to own for comparison. Given this #89 is refinished, who knows what all has been done to it. I will say that the other receiver and tang markings do look correct.
Thanks. I thought the browns in the case color looked strange.
The case coloring on some Model 1890’s is not totally attractive for pattern and color. That includes my own too.
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