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January 22, 2023 - 5:12 pm
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I picked up a Model 90 Plain Pistol Grip a few years ago and am hoping it isn’t a fake or an altered rifle.  Serial #700156.  The number stamped in the lower tang, bottom tip of buttplate and buttstock is2386.  My pictires are limited in clarity but may suffice.  Whar are your thoughts?  Thanks,  RDB

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If that’s a fake, I wish I knew where to find another just like it. 

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Hello Roger,

Your Fancy Model 1890 rifle was manufactured in early September 1924, and it looks perfectly original to me… and very nice! Cool

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Thats a great looking Plain Pistol Grip 90. It’s really hard to argue with assembly numbers on multiple parts if the gun looks right. Changing the tang contour to fit the PG stock would not be an easy task either. I think you have a winner there. I only have one plain pistol grip M90 but it’s a half nickel and doesn’t have the condition of yours. 

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Thank you for your responses.  In the past I have made errors in my assessment of the originality of some of my purchases.  I would rather know I have made a mistake than to misrepresent an item.  Any idea of the value difference between “plain” and “checked” stocks?  The non-checked pistol grip stocks are not covered in the “Red Book”.  RDB

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rogertherelic said
Thank you for your responses.  In the past I have made errors in my assessment of the originality of some of my purchases.  I would rather know I have made a mistake than to misrepresent an item.  Any idea of the value difference between “plain” and “checked” stocks?  The non-checked pistol grip stocks are not covered in the “Red Book”.  RDB  

The value difference will not be significant.  Any factory original pistol gripped Model 90 is very desirable.  The Red Book was written to cover all “cataloged” variations of each model.  It would have been way too difficult to include all of the many special order (non-standard) guns.

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Based upon what I had to pay when I was collecting 1890’s a semi deluxe is worth 2X what a plain pistol grip would bring and the deluxe is at least if not more than 2X what a semi deluxe would bring.  All other thins being equal.  Case colored guns are worth more than blued guns.  Antique is worth more etc.

I have not kept up with prices since I sold most of my collection.

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Chuck,

Very fine examples of the Model 1890 variations that were offered or could be special ordered. 

The top rifle in your picture was the cataloged “Fancy Finished Rifle”.  The other two rifles were special order only… never cataloged.

Hopefully you still have all three of those wonderful Model 1890 rifles!

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Bert, someone offered me a price for these 3 that I couldn’t refuse.  I only wish I would have kept the top one.  And to add salt to the wound I gave half the money to Vicki and she had the nerve to ask me where the rest of the money was.  I’m sure I could figure out which gun in the safe I bought with the money though.

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