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The Shelhamer stock work is glorious, though I’m surprised Niedner failed to make a milled trigger guard for it, as other less talented metalsmiths have done; that perfunctory bit of engraving is not compensation. I was under the impression all Niedner full custom rebuilds were assigned a Niedner ser. no., but maybe there were exceptions. But where is the evidence of a Pope connection?
He has the stock off it for photos – and shows plenty of photos of the inletting, several of the action and barrel – you would think it it was stamped Pope anywhere, he would show it.
steve004 said
He has the stock off it for photos – and shows plenty of photos of the inletting, several of the action and barrel – you would think it it was stamped Pope anywhere, he would show it.
If there was any Pope marking, it would be on the brl. But why would Niedner, a famous brl maker himself, use a Pope brl? I doubt, actually, the seller has any idea what he’s talking about. If he thought it had Pope rifling, he’s have said so.
First thing I would do is ask him if it has RH or LH twist. Pope is the only one I know of that used LH twist at that time. Also, any barrel made by Harry would have a date, barrel bore dimensions, twist rate and his serial number. This was always stamped on bottom side of barrel. Top side was simply stamped H.M. POPE.
I have seen several Pope barrels removed from their original action and refitted to other rifles. This was really quite common. Perhaps this is such a barrel and the original stampings were turned off in the refit.
Steve
seewin said
Perhaps this is such a barrel and the original stampings were turned off in the refit.
Maybe, but how would a guy out in Plano, Texas, know that? He’s obviously repeating the story related to him by the previous owner. Actually, I’m more curious about why there’s no Niedner serial; he began marking them from his earliest work in Mass., according to Mike Petrov.
clarence said
seewin said
Perhaps this is such a barrel and the original stampings were turned off in the refit.
Maybe, but how would a guy out in Plano, Texas, know that? He’s obviously repeating the story related to him by the previous owner. Actually, I’m more curious about why there’s no Niedner serial; he began marking them from his earliest work in Mass., according to Mike Petrov.
I would think he would be smart enough to determine right or left hand twist. No idea if he knows anything about Pope or not, but if I was interested in rifle and contingent of buying was that it have a Pope barrel, I certainly would ask these questions along with what kind of provenance he has for the rifle. I agree about the Niedner serial number. That would be another question. Before I dropped that kind of money on the rifle, I would want some answers. If there is in fact a Pope number on the barrel, Tom Rowe who has authored 2 sets of books on Pope rifles can tell you the history on the barrel.
Steve
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