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Would like to add this M52 to our magazine or calendar. Several special order features on this 1931 vintage M52 Speed lock that are seldom seen. Big Larrythumbnail-11.jpgImage Enlarger

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Larry,  That 52 is so nice it deserves a genuine Winchester leather sling.  I know where you can find one.

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Larry,

Nice 52, I remember that round top.

Write up a description of the rifle and what makes it unusual and have Tom takes some photos with some appropriate background and send them to Brad Dunbar.  

Glad to see you on the forum today!

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clarence said
Larry,  That 52 is so nice it deserves a genuine Winchester leather sling.  I know where you can find one.  

At the time this rifle was made, the M1917 sling was an option. This particular rifle didn’t come with one, but an earlier M52 Slow Lock did.

I would be interested in a Winchester sling. Thanks Clarence. Big Larry

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Larry,

Nice 52, I remember that round top.

Write up a description of the rifle and what makes it unusual and have Tom takes some photos with some appropriate background and send them to Brad Dunbar.  

Glad to see you on the forum today!

Best Regards,  

I had Tom take pics. I do not know how to get in touch with Dunbar.  Thanks my friend. Did you get all the M75 pics from Tom?  Big Larry

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Big Larry said

I had Tom take pics. I do not know how to get in touch with Dunbar.  Thanks my friend. Did you get all the M75 pics from Tom?  Big Larry  

Hi Larry,

Brad is a Moderator on this forum and you can contact him via here – https://winchestercollector.org/forum/members/

Scroll down a bit and you will see his information under “Moderators” so you can send him a PM and trade email addresses.

Yes, I got the photos from Tom and one of your rifles will again be featured in the next book, thanks!

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Very nice Big Larry.

It will be in good company with your other gems.

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Very nice Big Larry.

It will be in good company with your other gems.

Bill  

I bought this rifle several years ago not knowing what it was. It’s not in any books I could find. According those in the know, the nickel steel bbl. is scarcer than a stainless. Other features put this rifle into the scarce class. Thanks Bill. Big LarryTop-of-NS-M52.JPGImage Enlarger

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I have noticed that sights mounted on right side of the receiver seem to appear more often on earlier Model 52’s.  This is serial number 24344 and is a heavy barrel. It is not a round top.  RDB 

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I have noticed that sights mounted on right side of the receiver seem to appear more often on earlier Model 52’s.  

Maybe because it would be easier to adjust, but looks to me as if it might interfere with bolt manipulation, esp. if one “palmed” the bolt handle as I usually do.  The 48-Ts, as on Larry’s gun, could be ordered for either side, as could the Vavers.  Seems to have taken Lyman an unusually long time to begin offering them, 1929 or 1930, before rcvrs. were D&T, because a tap was included with the sight.

Maybe Lyman waited until the round-top rcvr. became available.  When was that?  By 1931 the 48-T had become a factory option.  Did that mean flat-top rcvrs. after that date were also D&T? 

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I have noticed that sights mounted on right side of the receiver seem to appear more often on earlier Model 52’s.  

Maybe because it would be easier to adjust, but looks to me as if it might interfere with bolt manipulation, esp. if one “palmed” the bolt handle as I usually do.  The 48-Ts, as on Larry’s gun, could be ordered for either side, as could the Vavers.  Seems to have taken Lyman an unusually long time to begin offering them, 1929 or 1930, before rcvrs. were D&T, because a tap was included with the sight.

Maybe Lyman waited until the round-top rcvr. became available.  When was that?  By 1931 the 48-T had become a factory option.  Did that mean flat-top rcvrs. after that date were also D&T?   

I have seen no evidence as to the production of the round top receivers. They are completely different than the Sporter round tops. I have owned 3 of these. 2 heavies and one standard. The other 2 were proof steel. I have never seen another Nickel Steel heavy or Standard. Big LarryTop-of-M52-NS.JPGImage Enlarger                                                                  

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There’s something special about this 52, Larry. I generally prefer the later guns with marksman stocks but I like it and I’d sure like to see it on a WACA calendar. Would also be an excellent candidate for the featured Winchester on the inside back cover. Collecting isn’t always about fancy guns. 

 

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There’s something special about this 52, Larry. I generally prefer the later guns with marksman stocks but I like it and I’d sure like to see it on a WACA calendar. Would also be an excellent candidate for the featured Winchester on the inside back cover. Collecting isn’t always about fancy guns. 

 

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I have had many with Marksman stocks, but I prefer the earlier rifles with the Laudensack type stocks. You know, I am a collector of 22’s in general. Part shooter too. A few years back, I sold most all my M52’s. Still have an A and B and a C and a couple early rifles to include 2 Slow Locks, one of which has the stainless bbl. 
This M52 deserves to be seen. it is not particularly a pretty rifle, but it does have interest amongst M52 collectors. 

BTW, I have a very nice period scope for it too. A Lyman 5-A. Really not enough scope for this rifle.    Thanks, Big Larry

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I have had many with Marksman stocks, but I prefer the earlier rifles with the Laudensack type stocks.

BTW, I have a very nice period scope for it too. A Lyman 5-A. Really not enough scope for this rifle.    Thanks, Big Larry  

A 52 without a barrel band…I’m NOT interested.  The effete “internal” barrel bands used on Marksmans don’t count.  Only wish the finger grooves on Slowlocks had continued on into the Speedlock period.

Larry, what do you think of this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294855020097?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=5d4dafc993b349f3b555a7faded08720&bu=43185806222&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220310075536&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

The idiot selling it has no idea the rear mount is a Unertl, & neither will the idiot who buys it. 

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Big Larry said

I have had many with Marksman stocks, but I prefer the earlier rifles with the Laudensack type stocks.

BTW, I have a very nice period scope for it too. A Lyman 5-A. Really not enough scope for this rifle.    Thanks, Big Larry  

A 52 without a barrel band…I’m NOT interested.  The effete “internal” barrel bands used on Marksmans don’t count.  Only wish the finger grooves on Slowlocks had continued on into the Speedlock period.

Larry, what do you think of this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294855020097?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=5d4dafc993b349f3b555a7faded08720&bu=43185806222&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20220310075536&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

The idiot selling it has no idea the rear mount is a Unertl, & neither will the idiot who buys it.   

With that low number, the scope probably had the old Grasshopper mounts originally. Lyman had to use up the old parts when they bought out the A5 Winchester. I have a few of the old period scopes, but when I shoot my M52’s or 40X’s, I use a 1955 vintage 20X STS. Works great at 100 yards. Big Larry

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Big Larry said

With that low number, the scope probably had the old Grasshopper mounts originally. Lyman had to use up the old parts when they bought out the A5 Winchester. Big Larry  

That’s right, which was the cause for an argument I once had with Lyman-expert Gil Parsons.  I mentioned that I had an early 5A with the Winchester rear mount, which Gil said “had” to be a non-original replacement, because Lyman never used those mounts.  In fact, the first Lyman 5A brochure shows that mount, & the brochure itself is identical to the A5 brochure except for the name change from Winchester to Lyman.

Anyway, $800 would be a high price for this scope with the original mount.

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