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Dating a Model 69 and 67
February 22, 2016
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Question for the Rim fire experts. Is there any way to determine the year of manufacture of a Model 69 or 67, Barrel marking etc?

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February 22, 2016
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Yes, you can narrow it down to various eras based on the catalog model, barrel markings, style of stock and changes to the minor components.  Post a couple of pictures and we can help you determine the date.  Additionally, a small percentage of Model 69's have a 2 digit barrel date stamped on the underside in front of the receiver.

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February 22, 2016
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67bolt.pngImage Enlarger67marking.pngImage Enlarger69A1.jpgImage Enlarger69A2.jpgImage Enlarger69bolt.pngImage Enlarger69left.pngImage Enlarger69mag.pngImage Enlarger671.pngImage Enlarger6769.pngImage Enlarger69673.pngImage Enlarger69672.pngImage EnlargerHere are several shots of both the 67 and 69

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February 22, 2016
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Your 69A was made in 1946, it has the post WWII tapered forend but the earlier barrel marking which was changed in Nov. 1946.

The 67 is a little harder to nail down.  Yours was made post WWII between 1946 and 1948 with a post WWII tapered forend but the earlier Model 67 (not 67A) designation.

Hope that was what you were looking for.  They both look like very nice specimens.

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February 22, 2016
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Thank you sir, Just what I was looking for.

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February 22, 2016
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JWA said

Your 69A was made in 1946, it has the post WWII tapered forend but the earlier barrel marking which was changed in Nov. 1946.

The 67 is a little harder to nail down.  Yours was made post WWII between 1946 and 1948 with a post WWII tapered forend but the earlier Model 67 (not 67A) designation.

Hope that was what you were looking for.  They both look like very nice specimens.

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JWA - Excellent information. Do know approximately when the receiver was grooved for a scope?  I have an excellent condition 69A with factory grooved receiver.  Thank You.  Dick (Win 61)

February 22, 2016
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The grooves on top of the 69A receiver were added mid-1954 per Winchester Change of Product Notice 3022. The 69A receiver drawing was revised June 4, 1954 to reflect the change.

Hope that helps.

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February 23, 2016
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041.pngImage Enlarger042.pngImage Enlarger043.pngImage Enlarger044.pngImage Enlarger045.pngImage Enlarger046.pngImage Enlarger047.pngImage Enlarger048.pngImage EnlargerHow are you at the Model 1904? I know its pre 1919 hoping you can work your magic here too.

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February 23, 2016
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Post 1914 as that was the year it was rechambered to use short, long and extra long interchangeably. Page 101 of Houze book To the Dreams of Youth. Hope that helps.

February 23, 2016
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Well that is closer. So somewhere 1914-1919. And I wonder how many were made during WWI 1917-18?

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February 23, 2016
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I agree, 1914-1919 and defer to Houze's research. The short, long and extra long chambering was introduced 1914 and the 1904 designation was changed to " 04" in 1919 (known as the provisional marking where the "19" was removed from the roll die).  Houze calls this the 1904 Variation 3.

Unlike WWII, production was not halted on civilian arms during WWI and many of the purchases made by the U.S. and foreign governments such as England and France during the war were commercially produced guns.

During WWI Australians were still purchasing massive amounts of .22 single shot rifles to combat the estimated 10 billion feral rabbits overunning the farmlands. Many many single shot .22 Winchesters found their way to Australia during that time.

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February 23, 2016
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Thank you for the information. I always try to date each one of my rifles or at least narrow it down as much as possible. 

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February 23, 2016
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1916   6936

1917   14120

1918   12183

This is out of the Houze book page 106

February 24, 2016
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Wow! Not much of a slow down in production due to the war. interesting

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