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Hey I am finally able to (or finally figured out how to…) load images so here are pics of the M47 with the straight bolt. I am still waiting for approval so I do not have the rifles yet. Can’t wait to get my hands on them and get to the range!!
November 7, 2015
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Good job on posting pics. Other 47 may be a bit nicer but I sure like that receiver sight.
Mike
Thanks. I think this straight bolt rifle is oldest of the two but I honestly don’t know anything about them. It’ll be fun to learn more and even more fun to go shoot them!
November 7, 2015
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Shawn-
Jeff ((JWA) touches on the Model 47 quite often in his Model 69 book as they share many parts. On page 248 he wrote the swept bolt was authorized for the 47 and similar models (other than 69A Match or Target models) in September 1948.
Mike
TXGunNut said
Shawn-Jeff ((JWA) touches on the Model 47 quite often in his Model 69 book as they share many parts. On page 248 he wrote the swept bolt was authorized for the 47 and similar models (other than 69A Match or Target models) in September 1948.
Mike
Sorry if this is blasphemy – what is the name of JWA’s book? I have read a bunch of his posts here and on RFC, it is obvious he’s the authority!
Mike, I see that you live near DFW. i lived there for a handful of years in the 80’s. My son was born in Arlington. He just moved up to Kentucky after living in DFW since 12 yrs old (38 currently), to buy our old house. He felt he could never get ahead enough nor compete against corporations in the competitive housing market as a single income. Here he is now and he loves being out of the rat race.
Don’t want to throw a monkey wrench in your post, but I think the sling swivels are a later addition as is the Lyman rear sight. These items most certainly devalue your fine rifle. This is my opinion and we can wait for JWA to make a final assessment of your rifle. Thanks for sharing. Big Larry
ShawnN said
Sorry if this is blasphemy – what is the name of JWA’s book? I have read a bunch of his posts here and on RFC, it is obvious he’s the authority!
His website will provide that info: https://www.rimfirepublications.com/
Don’t want to throw a monkey wrench in your post, but I think the sling swivels are a later addition as is the Lyman rear sight.Big Larry said
No doubt swivel studs were added, but one 47 variant could be had with a rcvr sight; question is, was it this one? And would the rear sight be retained if ordered with a rcvr sight? Probably not, I’m guessing. Even if sight was added, both it & the swivels were improvements to the rifle, & show that whoever put them there knew something about shooting.
Big Larry said
Don’t want to throw a monkey wrench in your post, but I think the sling swivels are a later addition as is the Lyman rear sight. These items most certainly devalue your fine rifle. This is my opinion and we can wait for JWA to make a final assessment of your rifle. Thanks for sharing. Big Larry
That’s quite alright, I would like an honest assessment of all three rifles so I appreciate all feedback. From my perspective I didn’t buy these trying to become the uber-collector of super minty high value guns…I bought them to shoot and experience. They are not made anymore, and I am NOT getting any younger!! And, I feel that I bought honest guns from a true shooter, more than a collector from what his nephew told me, and this is how he kept and used them for decades so I’m perfectly fine with them as they are!
clarence said
Don’t want to throw a monkey wrench in your post, but I think the sling swivels are a later addition as is the Lyman rear sight.Big Larry said
No doubt swivel studs were added, but one 47 variant could be had with a rcvr sight; question is, was it this one? And would the rear sight be retained if ordered with a rcvr sight? Probably not, I’m guessing. Even if sight was added, both it & the swivels were improvements to the rifle, & show that whoever put them there knew something about shooting.
Clarence, the target model had a 80-A rear sight, a 97-A hooded front, and a Winchester blank where the bbl. sight would have been. These are very scarce. The Redbook shows one with swivels, but very doubtful they are factory. Mine came with aftermarket swivels too, but JWA gave me a set of Winchester swivels. Not original, but better. Big Larry
clarence said
ShawnN said
Sorry if this is blasphemy – what is the name of JWA’s book? I have read a bunch of his posts here and on RFC, it is obvious he’s the authority!
His website will provide that info: https://www.rimfirepublications.com/
Went to the website above and there is only one book about the Model 69, is my browser broken or is this really the only thing for sale? Thanks for the feedback!
ShawnN said
Hey I am finally able to (or finally figured out how to…) load images so here are pics of the M47 with the straight bolt. I am still waiting for approval so I do not have the rifles yet. Can’t wait to get my hands on them and get to the range!!
I don’t know much but they look in great condition. Congratulations!
TomThumb said
clarence said
ShawnN said
Sorry if this is blasphemy – what is the name of JWA’s book? I have read a bunch of his posts here and on RFC, it is obvious he’s the authority!
His website will provide that info: https://www.rimfirepublications.com/
Went to the website above and there is only one book about the Model 69, is my browser broken or is this really the only thing for sale? Thanks for the feedback!
Your browser is not broken, the name of the book is “The Winchester Model 69 – Evolution in Design”. Currently it is the only book listed however the new book on the Model 75 should be available later this year.
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
JWA said
TomThumb said
clarence said
ShawnN said
Sorry if this is blasphemy – what is the name of JWA’s book? I have read a bunch of his posts here and on RFC, it is obvious he’s the authority!
His website will provide that info: https://www.rimfirepublications.com/
Went to the website above and there is only one book about the Model 69, is my browser broken or is this really the only thing for sale? Thanks for the feedback!
Your browser is not broken, the name of the book is “The Winchester Model 69 – Evolution in Design”. Currently it is the only book listed however the new book on the Model 75 should be available later this year.
Best Regards,
I’ve seen many of your posts and references to asking JWA. I’m searching for information on the Winchester Model 74; I’ve also reached out of Rimfire. Please let me know your preference on asking you a question. Thanks in advance for being the referred to source!
For a very specific question you can send me a PM here or at RFC. To send a Private Message (PM) just click on the avatar/icon for the intended recipient and then click on the tab marked “send PM”, keep checking your inbox at the top of the page for a response (sometimes takes a day or so). For the fastest response, email is the best method, my address is Abendshien at AOLdotCom.
If you think the question and answer may benefit others, either currently or in the future then by all means feel free to ask it on the Forum so that others can participate.
I just answered a Model 74 question for “OGLover” on RFC, was that you?
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
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