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1890 with no manufacturing stamping on barrel.
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I inherited a rifle over 25 years ago and would like a bit of help gathering information on it.  

From what I’ve learned on this website I believe it to be a Winchester 1890 .22 WRF.  I just joined this website today as guest so I can’t post pictures.
 
Here’s the problem:
I think the octagonal barrel has been replaced since there is no manufacturing stamping on it.  Is this something you’ve seen before?
I also suspect it’s been reblued (if so they did a very nice job).  The wood is in great condition.
 
I fired 150 rounds through it when I first got it.  It’s in great shooting condition and very accurate.  I’m thinking about putting it up for sale but need to get an idea of what the value might be.  
Serial Number (shown in 2 places):  373637
 
Any manufacturing, historical or valuation information would be appreciated.  
 
 
 
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Ron;

The look up the S/N on the Forum dates your 1890 WRF as made in 1908. The Ned Schwing book shows a mfg date as May 1908. Also according to Schwing’s book, Winchester did not put the proof mark on the 1890 barrels until 1908, Being the change date is 1908 your rifle could have the original barrel. If you could look on the bottom of the barrel near the receiver, check for an O.F. stamp which would show it to be a replaced barrel ( outside of factory ). Of course removing the magazine tube would be required to see the bottom of the barrel.

As for value, it would take a lot more info – pictures, condition etc.

Good luck.

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Hi Dick,

I only have guest access so I’m not able to post images.  I’m not sure if it’s against the rules to provide a website URL with images so let me know.

Thank you for the fast response!

Ron

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Ron-1890 said
Hi Dick,

I only have guest access so I’m not able to post images.  I’m not sure if it’s against the rules to provide a website URL with images so let me know.

Thank you for the fast response!

Ron

  

It is perfectly acceptable to post a URL to your images.

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Hi,

I have posted several pictures to the link below.  There may be some glare but will try again soon outdoors.

As noted before I inhereted this and have no information on what had been done to it.

But you will see that the barrel has absolutely no stamps on it so I’m pretty sure it’s been replaced.  You may also be able to determine if it has been re-blued from the images.  Please let me know a ballpark value if possible.

Thank you again!

 

Ron

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Additional image of barrel.  Note the rear sight is missing a screw with no drilled/tapped hole.  Also, no stamp with caliber etc.

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The rear hole in the barrel sight is for the elevation screw. It was not used to hold the sight to the barrel

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The way I see it, the barrel and/or magazine tube appear to be reproductions., judging by the distance from the front ring to the end of the magazine tube. Also looks like the front ring has a retaining pin through it, which is not proper original configuration.

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You rifle appears that it has been refinished. Actually hard to say without the gun in hand but it looks to me the the markings were removed by who ever refinished it. No collector value left unfortunately. Put it on Gun Broker starting at a penny. You will get the most there.

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I plan to add more information such as the exact barrel length, photos and any existing stamps etc. 

Also, I will take better pictures with more close up detail.  If there are any specific areas I should focus on please let me know.

Since I don’t have anyone to hand this down to I would like to sell it.  I never knew it’s history and now see how many variables there are related to pricing.

I’ve had this rifle for decades and have learned so much in the last 48 hours from this website.

Thank you all for the really great information and fast responses!

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