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I guess I’m posting back to back threads but always like to share new acquisitions with WACA members. Attended a gun show 1000 miles from home this weekend being put on by one of our forum member’s. With my recent purchases in the past couple months and the 2024 gun budget already spent, I had no intentions of buying another gun and was only there to help out with the show. Well….

 

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Rick,

Interesting Short Rifle!  Can you post a clear close-up picture of the rear sight on the barrel?

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Rick – 

Didn’t I warn you this was going to happen?!  But I agree with Bert completely – that is a very interesting short rifle.  Love the 3/4 mag, takedown feature, Lyman receiver sight…. that is simply a rifle that you couldn’t leave behind.  I well understand that you had to do what you had to do.

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Rick,

Interesting Short Rifle!  Can you post a clear close-up picture of the rear sight on the barrel?

Bert

  

I believe this is the one it should have. 

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Rick – 

Didn’t I warn you this was going to happen?!  But I agree with Bert completely – that is a very interesting short rifle.  Love the 3/4 mag, takedown feature, Lyman receiver sight…. that is simply a rifle that you couldn’t leave behind.  I well understand that you had to do what you had to do.

  

Thanks Steve and Yes you did worn me lol. I think once this hobby(disease) blooms, there’s no stopping(cure). This one was hard to walk away from, and I did, about 12 different times, but…

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Rick C said

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Rick,

Interesting Short Rifle!  Can you post a clear close-up picture of the rear sight on the barrel?

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I believe this is the one it should have. 

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Nope… that is my rifle & sight.  That style of Flat-top sporting rear sight was found on the pre-1900 Single Shot rifles.

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Bert H. said

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Bert H. said

Rick,

Interesting Short Rifle!  Can you post a clear close-up picture of the rear sight on the barrel?

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I believe this is the one it should have. 

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Nope… that is my rifle & sight.  That style of Flat-top sporting rear sight was found on the pre-1900 Single Shot rifles.

  

Bert I’m not sure if you have a photo for the one mentioned in the data sheet but here’s a couple photos of the one that’s currently on it. I was advised it was the original, but I’m not sure what or where the line is or represents. 

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Rick, very nice shortie, love the 3/4 mag. and screw eyes. The rear sight with the line is the 24E and was discontinued 2/5/08, and could be had on all models.

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Rick, very nice shortie, love the 3/4 mag. and screw eyes. The rear sight with the line is the 24E and was discontinued 2/5/08, and could be had on all models.

  

Thank you Clark and also for the sight info. Just wondering if you would happen to have a photo of one of those.

I was advised the one on it is original and it certainly looks it, but I always understood pre-1908 sights had serrations and pre-1914 were V notch but maybe some of them didn’t have the serrations or V notch. I’m no expert.

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Rick C said

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Rick C said

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Rick,

Interesting Short Rifle!  Can you post a clear close-up picture of the rear sight on the barrel?

Bert

  

I believe this is the one it should have. 

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Nope… that is my rifle & sight.  That style of Flat-top sporting rear sight was found on the pre-1900 Single Shot rifles.

  

Bert I’m not sure if you have a photo for the one mentioned in the data sheet but here’s a couple photos of the one that’s currently on it. I was advised it was the original, but I’m not sure what or where the line is or represents. 

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Based on the fact that it does not have the vertical platinum line, I would tend to believe that it is not the original sight.  That stated, it is a Flat-top sporting sight and with the Lyman No. 21 in place, it is not the sight you would use anyway.  Does the barrel mounted sight interfere with the peep sight picture?

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Bert, the sight picture is good thru the U notch flat top and then to the ivory bead on the front hunting no4 but, it should have the correct lettered rear sight to make it complete. Someone may have removed the original rear flat top with line and put a blank in because it has a receiver sight. Possibly lost in the transition.

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I couldn’t find one, but all the early flat top and sporting sites should have the serrations, the one on your gun appears to be a later sight. Someone took off the original with the white line, and replaced with the later. The line model 24E are hard to find!

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I couldn’t find one, but all the early flat top and sporting sites should have the serrations, the one on your gun appears to be a later sight. Someone took off the original with the white line, and replaced with the later. The line model 24E are hard to find!

  

That’s what I’m thinking now also. Thanks Clark & Bert. The hunt is on.  

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Well played, Rick. Your other option was to kick yourself all the way home. Speaking of options it has some I get really excited about and they all letter. Congrats!

 

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Thanks Mike. Regret not buying it weighed in heavily and was really the deciding factor. 

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I found this one pictured below in the 2nd edition of the Renneberg Model 94 book. Had to look at the letter again and it says “line”, not lined(as in platinum) so this must be it.

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I found it pictured below in the 2nd edition of the Renneberg Model 94 book. Had to look at the letter again and it says “line”, not lined(as in platinum) so this must be it. 

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I believe that you are correct.  I suspect that it will be a difficult sight to find, but the hunt is at least half of the fun.

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It’s going to be a hard one to find, you see the 26 full buckhorn more often. I’ll keep an eye out

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It’s going to be a hard one to find, you see the 26 full buckhorn more often. I’ll keep an eye out

  

I definitely appreciate that Clark. Thank you!

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