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This guy is making the rounds in all the forums. Told me to contact a guy with his email address for a part I had advertised wanting to buy in Rimfire Central. Fool me once shame on him, fool me twice & shame on me.
NelyJohny is his registered name on RFC. Just joined 7hrs ago. The fraudsters email is [email protected] for those who might receive a message from either if you have wanted ads. A quick google search showed other post about this fraudulent email. 

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Are there any cops or FBI that investigate fraud anymore?  A sting would be VERY easy with these scammers.  Not sure why nobody ever does anything about them.  Technology can work both ways, the FBI could easily figure this out, and ask for a gun that is illegal or expensive enough that the fraud attempt is worth busting someone and sending them up the river. 

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Unfortunately they have bigger fish to fry. The electronic age and internet rules the world & the amount of money it would take to dedicate investigators for the amount of internet frauds would bankrupt any law enforcement agency. 
I agree AZshot & wish something could be done but they would have a million stings to initiate or follow up. A lot of these scammers are from foreign countries making it even more difficult. 
Proving who’s behind the key board is another issue LE have to deal with so it’s not as easy as we think. 

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It would take a federal LEO with an interest in collector firearms and extensive IT background. I only know of one BATFE agent with a casual interest in older firearms and I have no idea what his IT skills are. He’s building his retirement home nearby so we won’t get much out of him. This investigator would also need the backing of his supervisor so the prospects of a thorough investigation grow dimmer. I think a scammer tip hotline (or today’s online equivalent) would be helpful, we have several sets of sharp eyes that spot these scams every day on the online auctions. Many scammers appear to be offshore but I suspect that’s not always the case. 

My federal LE contacts are mostly retired and were generally involved in CBP. The FBI and BATFE folks I’ve met are pleasant enough but know next to nothing about collector firearms and reluctant to discuss firearms with someone who knows much about them. 

Rick is probably right about bigger fish, it may be difficult to get a BATFE agent interested in “wealthy” hobbyist victims when they seem focused on felons in possession of firearms or ammunition and the occasional gun trafficker or gun shop burglar.

 

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The FBI and BATFE folks I’ve met are pleasant enough but know next to nothing about collector firearms and reluctant to discuss firearms with someone who knows much about them.  

As doing so would expose their general ignorance on that subject. 

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AZshot said
Are there any cops or FBI that investigate fraud anymore?    

No scam below the “millions” level is of serious interest to LE, because there are barely enough investigative & prosecutorial resources to deal with those!  A friend of mine defrauded of several thousand in a mail-fraud scam was told bluntly by postal inspectors that they could not keep up with multi-million scams, so his claim, though duly recorded, would have to “wait its turn”; in other words, forget it! 

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There is quite a bit of scamming going on now days.  Another scam going around is on these online bulk ammo sites.  They oftentimes have “bulkammo” in their website address.  Their only payment option is “cash app”, usually a dead giveaway they are not legit and that they are a scam or phishing operation.  Their sites are deceiving and look just like any other online ammo site. 

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