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Hard to find Model 64
February 24, 2018
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I have always sought the unusual and hard to find Winchester Rifles.  I have, at times, purchased “iffy” guns and not always come out right side up.  I started looking for the Model 64 219 Zipper ‘Carbine’ when I first heard rumors of it’s existence.  For more than 20 years I only heard rumors and doubt of whether or not there really was such a gun.  Then back in 2013 I found the elusive jewel at the Aug. Reno Show.  I had to trade 7 of my table guns and $1,000 cash, but it was mine!  The fact that it isn’t mint and was reported to be used as a Texas varmint gun only added to the joy of ownership.  Not too nice to shoot!

The little Zipper was special ordered with out provision for the rear barrel sight and this adds a slick look to the flowing lines of the gun.  Thanks for looking.

RDB

 

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Wow, that is a fantastic M64. Super scarce to begin with, and then you factor in the omitted rear sight slot, and you really have something. I like it, for sure. 

Thanks for sharing, Roger.

~Gary~

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February 24, 2018
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Rodger,

I now have (6) confirmed 22-inch Zipper “Carbines” in my research survey, all in a relatively small serial number range.  Yours is number 3 on my list.  I really enjoyed examining it with you at the Reno show.

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February 24, 2018
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I thought that barrel looked longer than the 20″ carbine I have. Makes sense now with that caliber.

Bert – Do all (6) of them in your survey have the rear sight slot omitted?

~Gary~

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Gary,

(5) of them are the Deer Rifle variation, and Yes, they all were made with no rear sight dovetail cut. There is just (1) that is a standard “carbine”, and it had a barrel mounted rear sight.

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February 25, 2018
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VERY cool rifle Roger!!  And I love the clean barrel with no sight dovetail in it.  

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I agree the 64 carbine deluxe in 219 Zipper is an extremely rare and hard to locate Winchester. This group of (4) is one of each caliber. The second from top is a 25-35 and is also a hard to find model 64. Third from top is a 32 and bottom 30 WCF.

February 26, 2018
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Excellent collection!  Thanks for sharing.

RDB

February 26, 2018
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started47 said
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I agree the 64 carbine deluxe in 219 Zipper is an extremely rare and hard to locate Winchester. This group of (4) is one of each caliber. The second from top is a 25-35 and is also a hard to find model 64. Third from top is a 32 and bottom 30 WCF.  

Do I have the serial numbers for these? 

The 25-35 WCF is actually less common than the 219 Zipper in the Model 64.  Currently, I have the following in the Model 64 survey;

1. 30 WCF = 1,338

2. 32 WS = 585

3. 219 Zipper = 200

4. 25-35 WCF = 115

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February 26, 2018
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Gary – here is another one of those elusive zippers – I have never even seen one with a 20 inch barrel so I have enjoyed looking at this thread – and, as always, it was a treat to look at your nice guns. Burt219zipper.jpgImage Enlarger

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Burt,

The 219 Zipper Carbines have a 22-inch barrel versus the 20-inch barrel found on the other calibers in the Model 64.

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Thanks Bert – I wondered about that after I sent the e-mail and then made a quick check in the Madis book which actually noted “a few rifles were made in zipper with twenty-two inch barrels”. I am assuming Winchester never actually referred to the shorter versions as “carbines”. At any rate, I have never seen a short barrel version of the Model 64 in 219 Zipper so reading this thread has been interesting and informative. I try to look at the Forum almost every day because I learn a lot and I really enjoy seeing the pictures posted. I learned a long time ago you don’t have to own guns to enjoy them so for someone like me that rarely gets to a gun show, pictures posted in the Forum are greatly appreciated. By the way, as others have noted, Forum speed over the last couple of days has been very slow. Burt

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I agree the 64 carbine deluxe in 219 Zipper is an extremely rare and hard to locate Winchester. This group of (4) is one of each caliber. The second from top is a 25-35 and is also a hard to find model 64. Third from top is a 32 and bottom 30 WCF.  

   Beautiful rifles.A picture that is sure to make any fan of the Model 64 rifles heart skip a beat.Smile It sure did mine.Smile

 

   Do you ever shoot those rifles?If they were mine,I believe I would have to take them to the range to give them a try,but that’s just me.Smile

February 26, 2018
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Burt, yes you have the serial numbers if these guns.

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Sorry Bert,,,,, the last post was meant for you. 

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Since we are talking .219 caliber Model 64’s there just happens to be 4 listed in the latest Julia auction catalog.  2 Deer Rifle and 2 Deluxe configurations.  Lots 2437,2438, 2439, and 2440.  

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August 26, 2020
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Just thumbing  thru net, found this very interesting  site, i just picked up  a winchester 64 in 219 zipper, missing the rear peep sight, anyone know where a guy can pick one up at?

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Gerald lewis said
Just thumbing  thru net, found this very interesting  site, i just picked up  a winchester 64 in 219 zipper, missing the rear peep sight, anyone know where a guy can pick one up at?  

Gerald,

You are looking for the proverbial “needle-in-the-haystack”.  If you are lucky enough to find one, be prepared to pay a lot of $$$ to own it.  Is your Modle 64 drilled & tapped for a receiver mounted peep sight?  If it is, a Lyman No. 56 sight would be your best option.  What is the serial number on your 219 Zipper?

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Gerald lewis said
Just thumbing  thru net, found this very interesting  site, i just picked up  a winchester 64 in 219 zipper, missing the rear peep sight, anyone know where a guy can pick one up at?  

Hello Gerald,

Have you tried looking on Ebay?  They can be a pretty good source for these small items.

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August 26, 2020
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Thank you bert for the fast response,  im at work and will check later  this evening,  it has a dove tail mount for the peep sight,  

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