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Changing collection direction
December 13, 2020
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Bill – Quality over quantity is hard to argue for sure, but for me if the price isn’t right, I just can’t justify it. With less quality I can acquire what I want & fulfill that need, but quality cost & if it means more than I’ll ever get in return then it’s not even a consideration.

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I’ve changed directions several times and now mainly collect Winchesters and some Colts.  Less guns now but they have more quality.  Would love to have a Volcanic but they are so expensive.  Don’t have an antique 1897.  I am also looking for a 1917.  Have a Springfield/Hotchkiss so I am looking for an all Winchester Hotchkiss.

I’m not sure what I’d do if I ever filled all the slots?

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 I Totally agree, I have passed on some really nice scarce rifles based on money restrictions. Could I have stretched and gone for it, sure- but that doesn’t make it the right decision. If I see something that I really like and the price is fair, I will sometimes get it and satisfy that ‘need’, only to know that if something nicer might  come along that I can improve upon- doesn’t matter when, but just having one and knowing that I might be able to do better at some point seems to work for me. I usually buy what I like and find myself not regretting any purchases, problem is what I like always seems to be pricey.

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Bill Hanzel said
 I Totally agree, I have passed on some really nice scarce rifles based on money restrictions. Could I have stretched and gone for it, sure- but that doesn’t make it the right decision. If I see something that I really like and the price is fair, I will sometimes get it and satisfy that ‘need’, only to know that if something nicer might  come along that I can improve upon- doesn’t matter when, but just having one and knowing that I might be able to do better at some point seems to work for me. I usually buy what I like and find myself not regretting any purchases, problem is what I like always seems to be pricey.  

So true.

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I started collecting modern pre64 Winchester shotguns and rifles. Models 12, 21, 42, 64, 70, & 71. Then I began selling and buying older levers eventually all antique. It was easier to do national shows and I enjoyed the history of some of these guns. The history led me to include US issue SAA Colts and early long wrist trapdoor carbines. I love to own original guns with a known documented history regardless of condition and will sell condition guns to get it. If I had more money I won’t have sold any of my guns.

 When someone asks me what I’m looking for, I tell them I’ll know when I see it. To me this hobby is about impulse buys. T/R

December 13, 2020
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 When someone asks me what I’m looking for, I tell them I’ll know when I see it. To me this hobby is about impulse buys. T/R  

So true Tom.  I could not count how many times I have responded in this way.

December 13, 2020
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Well, after 50 years of collecting high condition Winchesters – first all large caliber levers and then Model 1894s, and then just 1894 carbines.  I gave them up about 6 years ago and now collect high condition U.S. Martially Marked rifles and pistols – 1795 through 1945.  Lots of wonderful references, good supply of weapons and wonderful history.  Three of my rifles have National Archive references and I even know to whom a couple of them were issued to along with enlistment papers and pay records.

 

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Rick Hill said
Well, after 50 years of collecting high condition Winchesters – first all large caliber levers and then Model 1894s, and then just 1894 carbines.  I gave them up about 6 years ago and now collect high condition U.S. Martially Marked rifles and pistols – 1795 through 1945.  Lots of wonderful references, good supply of weapons and wonderful history.  Three of my rifles have National Archive references and I even know to whom a couple of them were issued to along with enlistment papers and pay records.

 

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Rick Hill said
Well, after 50 years of collecting high condition Winchesters – first all large caliber levers and then Model 1894s, and then just 1894 carbines.  I gave them up about 6 years ago and now collect high condition U.S. Martially Marked rifles and pistols – 1795 through 1945.  Lots of wonderful references, good supply of weapons and wonderful history.  Three of my rifles have National Archive references and I even know to whom a couple of them were issued to along with enlistment papers and pay records.

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That’s out of my league RickH but very interesting. And that’s a very fine collection & nice gun room. Mine unfortunately has a washer & dryer in it also 🙄

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RickC said

And that’s a very nice gun room. Mine unfortunately has a washer & dryer in it also 🙄

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Mine has clothes hanging in it. 

December 13, 2020
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But Bert!  The other wall has a gorgeous Model 1917 Enfield Winchester rifle on it………………..Gun-Wall-II-1892-1945.jpgImage Enlarger

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But Bert!  The other wall has a gorgeous Model 1917 Enfield Winchester rifle on it………………..Gun-Wall-II-1892-1945.jpgImage Enlarger  

OK, I’ll cut you a little slack… do you have a U.S. Navy Model 1911 ??

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Bert:  You know that I don’t and if I did, I wouldn’t sell it to you like the last Model 1911 that I had!

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Bert:  You know that I don’t and if I did, I wouldn’t sell it to you like the last Model 1911 that I had!  

Good for you Rick.  Bert doesn’t need another Navy 1911.

I am envious that I don’t have a gun room too.  My wife allows me to have a corner in one of her rooms.  I too have started collecting military arms from the Civil War to WWII.  Winchesters and Colts.  I did not get rid of any of the guns in my collection just added a new section. 

I really would like to find a Winchester 1917.  It would fill one of my open slots.  Did you bid on the one that RIA sold a couple of auctions ago?  It was in the Winchester collection and was never sent to the military.

December 14, 2020
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Here was a really nice model 1917 that sold as soon as it was listed.  Not sure what kind of money these go for, but it must have been a pretty good deal.

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December 14, 2020
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Don, I have seen real nice ones go for more. But here is the thing.  Most of the ones for sale have been messed with and have a lot of Remington/Eddystone parts.  Others made replacement barrels.  You need to look at this gun before buying.  Besides import marks there are lend/lease guns. These do not fill a spot for me.  I really wouldn’t want one with British proofs and a big red spot on the wood.   Obviously this is not a lend/lease gun.

This gun looks good on the internet.

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Don, I have seen real nice ones go for more. But here is the thing.  Most of the ones for sale have been messed with and have a lot of Remington/Eddystone parts.  Others made replacement barrels.  You need to look at this gun before buying.  Besides import marks there are lend/lease guns. These do not fill a spot for me.  I really wouldn’t want one with British proofs and a big red spot on the wood.   Obviously this is not a lend/lease gun.

This gun looks good on the internet.  

That’s exactly why I’ve avoided military rifles in my collection.  It’s just too risky for me with all the rebuilds and mismatched parts.  The only “military” rifle I have is an 1894 WWI spruce gun.  Even with those you have to sort through all the fakes to find a real one.

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Most of the ones for sale have been messed with and have a lot of Remington/Eddystone parts.  Others made replacement barrels.  You need to look at this gun before buying. 

This gun looks good on the internet.  

I have found the same thing with 73’s. You really need to handle them before buying unless they’re high condition. I’ve had them show up & won’t cycle cartridges, dust covers flopping, won’t hold half cock, bad bore, etc. I’ve learned my lesson the hard way, not to repeat. Your reply Chuck reminds me of the same thing.

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I have posted this many times.  Don’t buy guns that you haven’t actually picked up and looked at.  All models have and are being faked or messed with.  If you continue to do this you will get burned.

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Chuck:

No I didn’t bid on the RIA Enfield.  Guess that I just missed it.  Finding nice, all original Model 1917s is really difficult.  I have all three manufactures (Winchester, Remington and Eddystone) but none of them are all original. I would like to have them if i could find them!

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