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Says original finish 1892 made in 1910. Blued butt plate and no wear on the metal anywhere. 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1043646439

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Stock does not fit well.  If refinished it was done well.

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Rick C said
Says original finish 1892 made in 1910. Blued butt plate and no wear on the metal anywhere. 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1043646439

  

Has it also been relined?

He does state that M1892’s are known to be reliable, accurate, tough, durable… I’d agree with all of that.

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If you look closely, you will see that it was a Post-WW II serrated hammer.  The lever, hammer, and butt plate should all be case color finished on a 1910 production Model 1892.

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Bert H. said
If you look closely, you will see that it was a Post-WW II serrated hammer.  The lever, hammer, and butt plate should all be case color finished on a 1910 production Model 1892.

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Yes good eye on the hammer Bert. I also noticed no wear on the lower tang or hanger and pins, and as Chuck said the wood doesn’t fit well in places. 

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In addition to the obvious reasons, especially the hammer, buttplate, and lever being case coloured, the bluing and finish on the wood don’t appear quite right for the era.  If placed side by side with a known original, this would be obvious.  Plus, the proof marks were applied after the bluing process and should show some white steel in them.  And so, an obvious refinish.

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I continue to be amazed at the number of guns being tucked away that are not right.

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There is nothing quite like having looked at and handled many thousands of old Winchesters over the years to give you the discerning eye.  When I have on occasion observed to a seller at some gun show that his gun is not quite right, I will sometimes hear the defiant, “Well, how do you know?”  At which point I point out that having looked at countless thousands of such rifles, I can tell original from non-original.  But it is amazing how many sellers refuse to hear that truth.  

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I think many sellers know the difference but yes you’re right BRP, they refuse to hear the truth but what do they care. Negative reviews don’t seem to have any effect because you can see one or two negative reviews not far apart and then the next 50 buyers praising the seller.  🤷🏻

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Blue Ridge Parson said
There is nothing quite like having looked at and handled many thousands of old Winchesters over the years to give you the discerning eye.  When I have on occasion observed to a seller at some gun show that his gun is not quite right, I will sometimes hear the defiant, “Well, how do you know?”  At which point I point out that having looked at countless thousands of such rifles, I can tell original from non-original.  But it is amazing how many sellers refuse to hear that truth.   

Not merely “looking,” but looking with discernment, judgement, & (dare I say it?) intelligence.  Lacking those qualities, it’s quite possible to handle “thousands” without learning very much about them…except that the next potential customer behind you is very unlikely to be so discriminating. 

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clarence said

Blue Ridge Parson said

There is nothing quite like having looked at and handled many thousands of old Winchesters over the years to give you the discerning eye.  When I have on occasion observed to a seller at some gun show that his gun is not quite right, I will sometimes hear the defiant, “Well, how do you know?”  At which point I point out that having looked at countless thousands of such rifles, I can tell original from non-original.  But it is amazing how many sellers refuse to hear that truth.   

Not merely “looking,” but looking with discernment, judgement, & (dare I say it?) intelligence.  Lacking those qualities, it’s quite possible to handle “thousands” without learning very much about them…except that the next potential customer behind you is very unlikely to be so discriminating. 

  

And that’s exactly who they lay in wait for – they usually don’t have to wait long as such customers exist in large numbers – and they often have money.

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