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Winchester 30-30 "Loaded in France"
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June 15, 2014 - 8:55 am
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That is a cool find.

Somewhere I have some Winchester boxes from the 1960’s or 70’s that are marked manufactured or made in Canada.Just forget which. 🙂

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Winchester’s plant in Cobourg Ont made ammo there.I see it at all the gun shows up here in Ontario.I’m sure any show in Canada there would still be boxes available if a person looked hard enough

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I dare say you are right,88man.Just have to look and ask.Seems like yesterday when I could buy it at the stores.If I remember rightly one side of the box was in English and the other side in French.

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I found a second one “Loaded in France”, this time untouched.

 

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 Greetings from Germany

 

Steff

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I had the same orange box in 45-90!    It was high condition and I sold it to another club member after it sat in my collection 10 yrs.   It said Made in France on the front label, Loaded in USA on top label.    Pictured in Giles book.    Congrats, very scarce find! 

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I found some more informations about the “Loaded in France” at the IAA Forum:

 

…. between early 1900’s and mid 1930’s Winchester made a series of special labels without any mention of the company name and with an unusual notation which reads “Loaded in France”; however, the original contents of these boxes are new primed empty cases, which means that these would be eventually loaded in France. The explanation given by Giles and Shuey is that they were sent to France as NPE shells to avoid French import taxes on loaded ammunition. Some rare caliber variations were indeed found only in France, either as original NPE shells or locally loaded cartridges.

 
 

… All these “Loaded in France” cartridges did only exist because the French “Monopole of Poudres et Salpêtres”, which was the one and only facility authorized to make gun powder in the country, so eventually imported ammo would have been as separate components, to be loaded on the spot (this giving also a good lot of work to local ammunition factories…!).

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https://plus.google.com/photos/102156175463635531780/albums/5664113780473710321

Some of my 44-40 boxes I collected over the years.   None loaded in France, but I wanted to show there was a huge variance in loads, labels, and even box designs.   Notice the yellow 44 box, I’m especially proud of it.  It’s the rarest… bottom left corner.   

Tony 

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Those old boxes are really something.  It’s amazing how some of them can make it for so long, still look good and be full of cartridges besides.

Brad

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