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1895 1894 short barrel rifle
February 26, 2015
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That’s what I think it is. 22 1/2″ oct. barrel, short magazine, Lyman front sight, unmarked rear. These are the auction house pics…

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They tell me that hex thing is not a bolt holding the stock together but a decorative inlay. We’ll see.

SN is 12611. Cal. 38-55.

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Curious, Have you checked to see how it letters?

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February 27, 2015
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I haven’t sent for a Cody letter for it yet, but I will.

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That one’s had the barrel and magazine cut on it. It just didn’t look right so I ran a search a few days ago.

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February 27, 2015
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Yeah I figured as much. Was thinking the magazine cap didn’t look right at all. Nothing a new barrel and magazine tube can’t fix.

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February 28, 2015
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Well, I don’t see anything in the reference that says it didn’t come that way. I think it is a special order. Wonder how, other than a letter, I could get that order? 

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What I posted is exactly what you get in the letter, so that’s all the records show. It left the factory as a 26″ full magazine rifle. If it was a short rifle the letter would list the barrel length. It would also list the magazine length if it was anything but full length. . Since they are not listed they would have been standard (26″ and full mag).

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Win1894 said

Well, I don’t see anything in the reference that says it didn’t come that way. I think it is a special order. Wonder how, other than a letter, I could get that order? 

You are mistaken in your belief that it was a special order rifle.  When the barrel length and magazine tube length are not listed, that means that they were standard (26″ and full length).  The research sheet that Gary obtained and posted from the CFM research office is exactly the information you will get on a Factory letter.  The information that Gary posted tells us that the barrel was originally 26-inches long, and that the magazine tube was full length to the barrel.  The factory ledgers only listed the length of the barrel and magazine tube when they were something other than standard.

The attached file is a classic example of what a Factory letter will look like for a “special order” Model 1894.

 

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Well, seems like ya’ll just saved me $100! Thanks! I wonder how long ago someone customized that rifle?

 

I still think it’s cool!

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Win1894 said

Well, seems like ya’ll just saved me $100! Thanks! I wonder how long ago someone customized that rifle?

 

I still think it’s cool!

There is no possible way to answer your question. It could have been done 100-years ago, or just 10-years ago.

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I think that is a good answer, Bert!Smile

I’ll post good pictures when it gets here.

 

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Well, it finally got here this evening. Upon first inspection, it looks like the original barrel has been shortened to 21 1/2″, not 22 1/2″. It has some interesting touches, and an interesting name carved into the stock.

I’ll take pics tomorrow.

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I like this gun! It balances perfectly right at the front of the receiver in this configuration.

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Don’t really know how these are supposed to look.

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More pics…

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Think I’ll try to find out who this is. I also think that maybe the magazine end cap is upside down?

Bore looks good!

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The magazine end cap there was borrowed and is part of the magazine cap for a takedown rifle assembly.  Someone likely took the existing magazine tube, cut it down and installed the takedown cap to a length where it barely protrudes the forearm cap–having been installed by drilling new holes in the shortened magazine.  The takedown lever is gone, as is the lever tension spring (would have been where the hole is in the end).  You wanted it to look like a button magazine, you can find the forearm cap with button sometimes online (gunbroker.com or ebay). 

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Thanks for that info, takedown. Interesting. Sure looks to me that it was done a long time ago, the barrel cut looks to be well done, as the chamfering inside and outside the muzzle looks good, and aged.

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Make sure the forearm cap you get is for an octagon barrel.  This is what it looks like (the second one in from the right side).  The button magazine forearm caps are made to accommodate the “button”.  The three shown on the left side of the pics are for a takedown rifle and standard length magazines.  Oftentimes the correct length magazine tube is sold with the forearm cap and button.  If the magazine tube is not included, you will also likely need another one depending on the length of the existing one (if its too short).  If its too long it can be cut down to fit.    Or, you can leave it as it is and not bother with it.  Depends on how much your willing to spend. 

 

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Well, I don’t know if spending more money on it at the present time is a wise thing to do. Maybe I should not mess with CEO Chaffin’s personal custom made rifle?Wink

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That is a MOP insert, but why on earth did he do that?Frown

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It’s been a while since I handled this gun, but I had this front sight, don’t know what it is, and decided it would look better on this gun than the one that was on it. That Lyman didn’t look good to me. I like this one better, and it looks like it belongs there!

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Looks like it could be “Leo Chaffin” carved in the butt stock.

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