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1894 extra light 24-inch short rifle
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An 1894 with full octagon extra light barrel seems pretty hard to come by, so when I found this one I just had to have it.  Paired up with a full magazine and set trigger, it really caught my eye.  I probably paid a bit too much for it, but I’d rather just think I bought it a little too soon…

Gary–do you have this one in your survey?

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Please pardon my out dated vernacular, but that is a ‘bitchen’ short rifle.  I like it!  Congratulations on a fine piece.  RDB

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Don, 

That is a very unique rifle and basically one of a kind in my survey, There’s no doubt it’s a rare piece.  Nice looking condition as well. Geez, I’m jealous, and the term “Bitchen” is appropriate. Hadn’t heard that since high school Smile.

Thanks for sharing, I love it! (Added it to the survey). 

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Very nice original and correct 94 – the set trigger is a really nice feature. I am surprised this one wasn’t tucked away by some collector by now. You did not buy it too soon, you bought it just in time, before it was gone!

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That is a very unique rifle and basically one of a kind in my survey, There’s no doubt it’s a rare piece.  Nice looking condition as well. Geez, I’m jealous, and the term “Bitchen” is appropriate. Hadn’t heard that since high school Smile.

Thanks for sharing, I love it! (Added it to the survey).   

Thanks Gary. Sounds like this rifle is more rare than I originally thought. According to your survey, what is the most driving feature contributing to its rarity? Is it the barrel length, octagon extra light barrel, set trigger, or simply just all of those features combined?  Just wondering which feature contributes the most to its rarity.

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Very nice original and correct 94 – the set trigger is a really nice feature. I am surprised this one wasn’t tucked away by some collector by now. You did not buy it too soon, you bought it just in time, before it was gone!  

Thanks Burt.  After some research, it was last sold by Morphy’s in 2007.  I probably could have bought a decent 1894 deluxe for not much more money, but I was drawn to the extra light octagon pencil barrel on this one.  The set trigger was just a nice added bonus.

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I think the hardest attribute to come by is the ELW octagon barrel in any length. Then set triggers on 1894s aren’t very common. The 22″ barrels take up the largest portion of the survey so 24″ helps it. Add in the TD, sights that letter etc. and it’s just the full package. Just curious, was that rifle online? 

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I think the hardest attribute to come by is the ELW octagon barrel in any length. Then set triggers on 1894s aren’t very common. The 22″ barrels take up the largest portion of the survey so 24″ helps it. Add in the TD, sights that letter etc. and it’s just the full package. Just curious, was that rifle online?   

Thanks Gary.  Leroy Merz had this gun, so that’s the reason I thought I may have “bought it a little too soon”, but when and where am I going to find another…? I did negotiate a bit off his asking price, but it was still up there.

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Gary,

Leroy Merz also has this one (sale pending). It’s also a rare piece, but I just don’t care much for the condition of the wood on this one. Also, no mention of checkering in the Cody letter. Very cool configuration though. Do you have this one in your survey?

https://www.merzantiques.com/product/w3084-winchester-model-94-pencil-barrel-take-down-rifle-in-caliber-m/

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Leroy Merz also has this one (sale pending). It’s also a rare piece, but I just don’t care much for the condition of the wood on this one. Also, no mention of checkering in the Cody letter. Very cool configuration though. Do you have this one in your survey?

https://www.merzantiques.com/product/w3084-winchester-model-94-pencil-barrel-take-down-rifle-in-caliber-m/

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Don – no doubt you got the better gun – by far in my opinion. The I checkering on the gun looks right in the photos but not having it in the records would haunt you – it would always be an excuse gun for which you had to provide an explanation. I have always been a condition guy but the more I see of faked and re-done guns anymore I am really starting to appreciate guns like the one you bought.

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Don,

That’s a nice rifle. I would like to find one with the extra light octagon barrel. Really neat.

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Burt Humphrey said

Don – no doubt you got the better gun – by far in my opinion. The I checkering on the gun looks right in the photos but not having it in the records would haunt you – it would always be an excuse gun for which you had to provide an explanation. I have always been a condition guy but the more I see of faked and re-done guns anymore I am really starting to appreciate guns like the one you bought.  

Thanks Burt.  I think I chose the better gun as well.  The main thing that bothers me about the wood on the other gun (other than not lettering with checkering) is the checkering looks sanded (or perhaps severely worn) and then refinished with some sort of glossy lacquer.  I would be fine with honest wear, but that shiny added finish look just turns me off.

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tionesta1 said
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That’s a nice rifle. I would like to find one with the extra light octagon barrel. Really neat.

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Thanks Al.  I had been looking for quite some time and finally found one.  I definitely had to pay the price, but to me it was worth it.

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Gary,

Leroy Merz also has this one (sale pending). It’s also a rare piece, but I just don’t care much for the condition of the wood on this one. Also, no mention of checkering in the Cody letter. Very cool configuration though. Do you have this one in your survey?

https://www.merzantiques.com/product/w3084-winchester-model-94-pencil-barrel-take-down-rifle-in-caliber-m/

Don  

I didn’t have that one either. Interesting there’s two of them on his site at the same time. I think he has another one that’s a full deluxe that’s been on there for many, many years as well. 

I agree with Burt. The one you picked is a stellar example. 

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I didn’t have that one either. Interesting there’s two of them on his site at the same time. I think he has another one that’s a full deluxe that’s been on there for many, many years as well. 

I agree with Burt. The one you picked is a stellar example.   

The Merz H-checkered gun has been around a long time – it is an octagon barrel gun but seriously lacks condition and is too late to letter. From the photos the Merz deluxe gun appears to be right but it would not be for me. It is one of those guns where my advice would be to spend more money and hold out for a better gun -but, I have personally done that a couple of times with the better gun at a fair price just never showing up. We all know the good stuff is rapidly disappearing as the guns are added to collections and a high condition deluxe or standard grade 94 with a short octagon barrel is pretty elusive. I am not sure how Merz determines his deluxe gun has 98% barrel and magazine blue.

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The Merz H-checkered gun has been around a long time – it is an octagon barrel gun but seriously lacks condition and is too late to letter. From the photos the Merz deluxe gun appears to be right but it would not be for me. It is one of those guns where my advice would be to spend more money and hold out for a better gun -but, I have personally done that a couple of times with the better gun at a fair price just never showing up. We all know the good stuff is rapidly disappearing as the guns are added to collections and a high condition deluxe or standard grade 94 with a short octagon barrel is pretty elusive. I am not sure how Merz determines his deluxe gun has 98% barrel and magazine blue.  

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I agree with your assessment of the deluxe gun.  It’s a nice gun and I certainly wouldn’t mind owning it, but the price would need to drop a few grand for me to make that happen.  The main negative deciding factor for me is that ugly spot of pitting on the barrel, but I admit I’m a condition freak.

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Burt

I agree with your assessment of the deluxe gun.  It’s a nice gun and I certainly wouldn’t mind owning it, but the price would need to drop a few grand for me to make that happen.  The main negative deciding factor for me is that ugly spot of pitting on the barrel, but I admit I’m a condition freak.

Don  

Don – not a short or pencil barrel but it has condition.

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Wow.  Absolutely gorgeous rifle Burt.  Love the caliber too.  Thanks for sharing.

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