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image0.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0818.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0819.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_0817.jpegImage EnlargerWith so many firearms of interest out there of interest, it’s best to mostly stick to vintage and antique firearms.  However, this scabbard is being gifted to me and the original owner, Sen Walcott of Connecticut, passed away in 1949, and this scabbard resided in the attic of his residence the better part of those years, at least since 1949.  The stitching dry rotted and needs repairing.  The fact that it belonged to a U S former Senator is inconsequential.  As is his ownership of some vintage firearms.  It’s always nice to know who previously owned a firearm, but this does not enhance value.  However, as I own a Model 1894 once owned, and this scabbard may (or may not) have encased this rifle in the past, I would like to have it restitched.  Any recommendations?

Obligatory photographs of scabbard and Walcott 1894 attached.

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mrcvs said  The stitching dry rotted and needs repairing.
  

Easy job for any saddle maker.

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clarence said 

mrcvs said  The stitching dry rotted and needs repairing.

Easy job for any saddle maker.  

They’re not exactly on every corner anymore.

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mrcvs said

They’re not exactly on every corner anymore. 

Where I grew up they were; though now, probably replaced by massage parlors. But you can mail it to some shop you find on-line. Stitching by hand using 2 needles is no fun but can be done if you take your time; standard leather working technique, you can find on You Tube, I’m sure.

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Try Rick Bachman (win4575 on here). I’m sure he could take care of you. 

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Try Rick Bachman (win4575 on here). I’m sure he could take care of you. 

Old West Reproductions®, Inc. – 406.273.2615

  

That’s exactly what I was looking for!  I shall call him this upcoming week.

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For a quality antique leather preservative, I would recommend Pecard’s Antique Leather Dressing.  I used it on a 100+ year old original leather sling with good results.

https://pecard.com/products/antique-leather-care-products/antique-leather-dressing/

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For a quality antique leather preservative, I would recommend Pecard’s Antique Leather Dressing.  I used it on a 100+ year old original leather sling with good results.

https://pecard.com/products/antique-leather-care-products/antique-leather-dressing/

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Thank you for the suggestion.  I will order this soon.

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Another example of a vanishing breed is the shoe repair shop. I have had some quality leather repairs done by the same guy who re-soled my boots. When you find one they tend to be a bit more reasonable than saddle shops.

 

 

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Another example of a vanishing breed is the shoe repair shop. I have had some quality leather repairs done by the same guy who re-soled my boots. When you find one they tend to be a bit more reasonable than saddle shops. 

I’d have mentioned that, except I think they’ve become even scarcer than saddle makers!  Saddles & tack haven’t reached the “throw away” status, but shoes did so in most places yrs ago.  Only shoe shop within 50 m of me closed 15 yrs ago.  Yet I remember vividly when most towns large enough to have a gro store also had a shoe shop!  Likewise a watch repair shop!

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clarence said

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Another example of a vanishing breed is the shoe repair shop. I have had some quality leather repairs done by the same guy who re-soled my boots. When you find one they tend to be a bit more reasonable than saddle shops. 

I’d have mentioned that, except I think they’ve become even scarcer than saddle makers!  Saddles & tack haven’t reached the “throw away” status, but shoes did so in most places yrs ago.  Only shoe shop within 50 m of me closed 15 yrs ago.  Yet I remember vividly when most towns large enough to have a gro store also had a shoe shop!  Likewise a watch repair shop!

  

As you mentioned, the shoe repair shops are all but mostly gone around here, a dying trade in most areas.  It may be owing to the cost of materials and leather (I know the leather I buy for projects has gotten quite expensive), time, and living wage that has caused their demise.  Or the older folks who professed in this field have all but died off with no one wanting to follow in their footsteps.  Everything is throw-away these days.  Ive got about 6 pairs of hunting boots I would love to have resoled if I could find someone locally to do it. 

Same as some of the hat makers (straw & woven palm).  They are all making them but with poor quality accoutrements, like cloth inner head bands instead of traditional leather.  Ive even offered one local hatmaker to order 10 hats and pay extra for them to stitch in a leather headband, but no bites.   

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Same as some of the hat makers (straw & woven palm).  They are all making them but with poor quality accoutrements, like cloth inner head bands instead of traditional leather.  Ive even offered one local hatmaker to order 10 hats and pay extra for them to stitch in a leather headband, but no bites.  

Even more shocking than the demise of cobblers!  Since it’s no more trouble to sew in the one than the other.  But I’ll be even more shocked if the American Hat Co in Houston can’t sell you exactly what you want.  When I lived in Houston in the ’70s (just outside downtown, by the way), I was a regular patron of their downtown shop & factory, but checking on-line, they’ve moved to the suburbs.  Houston, then, was about as safe a place as Mayberry. Now? Merely check out present Mayor & Police Chief, & you’ll know why the company moved.  I still have 2 of their straws made not later than 1980, getting brittle, but still quite wearable.

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I am sure this won’t help but we have a shoe repair in Rockford, il and a lady saddle maker in Loves Park ,il.

Also I picked up a stiff rifle sling at a sale for $2. Read a method of vaseline (petrolum jelly) rubbed into leather and then follow up with rubbing alcohol. I believe this liquefies the vaseline allowing it to penetrate into the leather. This worked great. Don

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86Win said Read a method of vaseline (petrolum jelly) rubbed into leather and then follow up with rubbing alcohol. I believe this liquefies the vaseline allowing it to penetrate into the leather. This worked great. Don
  

Vaseline is one of the very best leather treatments, because it doesn’t break down over time & turn acidic, as animal-derived oils do; neatsfoot oil is probably the worst for breaking down leather fibers.  Heating both the vaseline & the leather also improves penetration.

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clarence said

Even more shocking than the demise of cobblers!  Since it’s no more trouble to sew in the one than the other.  But I’ll be even more shocked if the American Hat Co in Houston can’t sell you exactly what you want. 

  

This was Lonestar Hat Co out of Kerrville.  I like their woven palm hats but they, along with all the other manufacturers, have gone on the cheap with the headband liner. 

 

Regarding the scabbard stitching, you can get a simple stitching kit from Tandy Leather and do it yourself if needed.  Get the right thread, dye it in tea, needle, and double stitch it up. 

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