Ken Windeler said
You’ve been telling me throughout this thread how I need to bump the shoulder back on my rounds. I’ve tried several times to inform you that the problem exists with, and I repeat my self one more time, FACTORY AMMO. Which is 0.30 short of max headspace, I even provided a picture for you.
First off I used the reamer as a gauge and did not ream the chamber until I got the Go and No-Go gauges.
Why would I need a case comparator when the L. E. Wilson gauge does exactly the same thing and is probably more accurate. Certainly more so than a comparator with an incompatible shoulder angle.
Grinding on dies no, good grief.
No over expansion and there never was a stuck case issue, I could not unlock the action at all. The locking bolt on a Model 94, well any lever gun, has to move downward before the breech bolt can retract. It was jammed up solid.
I’m done here.
I told myself I would not respond to this post again but I just couldn’t help myself.
I was trying to get you to measure your fired brass to be able to see what was happening in your chamber. After that I was responding to your comments. SAMMI specs shows the headspace to be .063″ to .070″. I doubt factory ammo is .3″ shorter than the max headspace. The only picture you supplied is a cartridge in a Wilson gauge was in Post #27. In Post #8 you stated that it could be an extractor groove problem and say you have never worked on this type of gun before. Post #12 you now think it is a chamber issue. Post #17 now you think it is a headspace issue. Post #19 you claim factory ammo is undersized. Post #25 you contemplate doing a chamber cast. Post #28 you bought a finish reamer and now back to a possible head space issue. You stated you didn’t know if the chamber was short and you did not have a chamber gauge so you reamed the chamber anyway. Post #32 you talk about the headspace being the distance from the shoulder to the rim. The headspace on a rimmed cartridge is controlled by the thickness of the rim. I’m not a gunsmith but I believe the measurement is the space between the rim and the bolt face?? Post #35 you bought a no go gauge. Then you cut something? Post #37 you somehow increased the head space? Grinding some material off the bottom of a die does no harm it just allows it to go down farther. Unlike reaming a chamber. I really don’t think you fixed this gun. You should not work on guns until you take a formal training class. I am way too done.
Chuck said
Ken Windeler said
You’ve been telling me throughout this thread how I need to bump the shoulder back on my rounds. I’ve tried several times to inform you that the problem exists with, and I repeat my self one more time, FACTORY AMMO. Which is 0.30 short of max headspace, I even provided a picture for you.
First off I used the reamer as a gauge and did not ream the chamber until I got the Go and No-Go gauges.
Why would I need a case comparator when the L. E. Wilson gauge does exactly the same thing and is probably more accurate. Certainly more so than a comparator with an incompatible shoulder angle.
Grinding on dies no, good grief.
No over expansion and there never was a stuck case issue, I could not unlock the action at all. The locking bolt on a Model 94, well any lever gun, has to move downward before the breech bolt can retract. It was jammed up solid.
I’m done here.
I told myself I would not respond to this post again but I just couldn’t help myself.
I was trying to get you to measure your fired brass to be able to see what was happening in your chamber. After that I was responding to your comments. SAMMI specs shows the headspace to be .063″ to .070″. I doubt factory ammo is .3″ shorter than the max headspace. The only picture you supplied is a cartridge in a Wilson gauge was in Post #27. In Post #8 you stated that it could be an extractor groove problem and say you have never worked on this type of gun before. Post #12 you now think it is a chamber issue. Post #17 now you think it is a headspace issue. Post #19 you claim factory ammo is undersized. Post #25 you contemplate doing a chamber cast. Post #28 you bought a finish reamer and now back to a possible head space issue. You stated you didn’t know if the chamber was short and you did not have a chamber gauge so you reamed the chamber anyway. Post #32 you talk about the headspace being the distance from the shoulder to the rim. The headspace on a rimmed cartridge is controlled by the thickness of the rim. I’m not a gunsmith but I believe the measurement is the space between the rim and the bolt face?? Post #35 you bought a no go gauge. Then you cut something? Post #37 you somehow increased the head space? Grinding some material off the bottom of a die does no harm it just allows it to go down farther. Unlike reaming a chamber. I really don’t think you fixed this gun. You should not work on guns until you take a formal training class. I am way too done.
You got me here supposed to be 0.035 shorter than minimum shoulder headspace / case length
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