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Installing a replacement barrel tension screw escutcheon in circa 1954 Winchester Model 70 stock
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November 19, 2023 - 9:59 pm
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That’s the kind of brother to have. When Dad died we sold his mill and toolroom lathe. I didn’t have room enough for either. But with a little ingenuity I’ve shortened screws on my drill press with a Dremel tool cutting disk. But never as fine a thread as 36…

  

Lou,  I forgot to mention something about the escutcheon itself.  When I got the rifle, even after I examined the exterior counterbore for the bedding screw, I thought the escutcheon itself had gone missing, as well as the bedding screw and mating stud.  The reproduction escutcheon I bought from Tommy in Knoxville was blue/black.  Only when I tried to install it did I discover there was already in place a thin, whitish metal escutcheon with an outer scalloped edge on its circumference, that could have been either silvery or goldish at one time.  The bedding screw was a slip fit through it and, when installed, the assembly very closely resembled that of the Van Orden rifle and my other two 1950 and 1951 standard rifles. I’ve also noticed the swivel base screw nuts installed in the Van Orden rifle appear to be either bare steel or plated.  Because the bedding screw escutcheon and these swivel base nuts were made to be embedded in raw Walnut, could Winchester have plated them to discourage corrosion?

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Glad your project is moving along nicely, Bill. Investigative technique is solid as well, hoping someone will take the time to do a bit of digging for you.

 

Mike

  

Mike,  I think I’ve turned up another clue. The barrel mark on its underside is almost certainly the remaining portion of a longer legend. I’ve bracketed what’s missing:

[ORIGINAL SAKO] BARREL MADE IN FINLAND

SAKO barrels in the Fifties and Sixties reputedly were very accurate. Firearms International not only imported SAKO rifles but also barrel blanks for the gunsmith trade. The barrels were unthreaded and pilot chambered only. In my case, it appears that when Nagel threaded the barrel for the ‘,47 Type 2 Model 70 action, the threading eliminated the “ORIGINAL SAK” and all but a trace of the “O”.  

My brother in law lives in San Antonio and is a serious shooter and longtime customer of Nagel’s.  He knows Bob Jr. fairly well and I’m inclined toward having him talk to Bob about putting some effort into finding the 1962 work order.  Rather than me go back to his Web employee. 

Butch tells me just about every gentleman rancher in Bexar County at one time had  old Homer Nagel build him a rifle and this one is beginning to look like it was .a real class effort for somebody. Early postwar transitional action, likely set up with longer than original bolt stop and shorter mag box and follower, new Super Grade stock, heavy Sako varmint barrel chambered by Nagel for the wildcat 22-250.  All that must have set somebody back pretty hard in 1962 dollars.  

I’ve ordered an RCBS headspace/bullet seating depth gauge to verify the critical chamber dims. Ive laid in dies and some  brass. I need to load up and go shoot this thing!

- Bill 

 

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Cool! I was thinking the font of “MADE IN FINLAND” looked familiar but haven’t handled a Sako rifle in years. It’s rather distinctive. Didn’t know they sold component barrels so that didn’t make sense at the time. I drooled over a Sako rifle a few decades back but decided it was too pretty. 
Loading sessions and range trip should prove entertaining, enjoy!

 

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