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Help: Restore Winchester M1894
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September 13, 2017 - 11:04 am
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 I have a rough M94 in rough condition and want to restore. It was made in 1903. I’m not sure if that period was rust blued, nitre blued, or charcoal blued. Can someone help me with this? Thanks.

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The barrels and magazine tubes were rust blued, the receiver frame was machine blued, and the hammer, lever, and butt plate were case color finished. If you are wanting to restore it to help its value, I recommend against doing it. The cost to have the work properly done will far outweigh the value of the gun when you are done restoring it.

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September 13, 2017 - 2:39 pm
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Thanks Burt, I’m not sure what machine blue means could you please explain?

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It is the same thing as furnace bluing. Steel parts are cleaned, placed in a furnace and then heated to a specific temperature and duration to form the black oxide, and then are quenched in oil. Winchester used that process for the receiver frames.

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September 13, 2017 - 5:11 pm
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Yes. I understand. Thank you.

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Standard 1894 models, both rifles and carbines are a dime a dozon.  What makes this one special enough to spend the money having it restored?  You can buy a near perfect original in either r or c for less than a quality restoration. 

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I am experience in metal prep, rust bluing, nitre bluing, and charcoal bluing and also have the equipment. I’m thinking I will do this myself. I’m just not sure what the requirement is for all of the components. Thanks.

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I am experience in metal prep, rust bluing, nitre bluing, and charcoal bluing and also have the equipment. I’m thinking I will do this myself. I’m just not sure what the requirement is for all of the components. Thanks.  

I am unsure what information you are seeking?  If you are looking for the technical details (e.g. time, temperature, chemicals, etc.), I can not help you, as I am not at all familiar with the “how to” of bluing old Winchesters.

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Bert, I think that you answered my question at the top about bluing. I was replying to win4575 post. Thanks a lot.

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