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1974 Texas Ranger Commemorative Load trouble
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I picked up an unfired Post 64 Commemorative Model 94 top eject 30-30 of the 150th Anniv of the TX Rangers.  Cool looker though kinda’ rattley for a new firearm.  Problem is, the spring cover/loading gate will not push the previously inserted round forward in spite of wiggling, pushing harder, begging, swearing, and so on.  Took it apart and polished the gate to mirror smoothness.  The stamped steel door is pretty unimpressive by the way.  No improvement in function.  The first round chambers and ejects properly but that’s all this old girl is able to do.  I’ve ordered a couple more loading gates, one used one from ebay, to throw parts at the problem but I’m skeptical.  Ideas?

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Your talking about a Commemorative Rifle that most true Collectors don’t have a lot of interest in.

Being a dime a dozen so to speak and the modern day version of a great time that has gone by with a tremendous history being the Winchester Rifle in all it’s Glory, what you have is just that and most will tell you to do what you need to do to make you happy.

Most all of us would rather drag an old beat up Original Winchester Rifle around a Gun show than a polished replica that has little history at all. IMHO!!!Smile

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Thanks for the reply, I think.  My 100+ year old 92s, 94s, and 95s all run well and are steeped in history, real and imagined.  They aren’t a problem.  I just hate having any firearm that doesn’t function correctly.  Not in my nature.

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A lot of people collect Commemorative guns. Not so much on this website though.

The loading gate is not supposed to push the cartridge anywhere.  It just goes in.  Maybe not far enough?  Something else is preventing you from pushing the cartridge in far enough?

Are you shooting factory ammo or reloads?  Is the rim hanging up? An internal alignment problem may exist?  If reloads, the seated bullet diameter may be too large and is bulging the case or won’t fit the chamber?

Edit:  I should have said mag tube not chamber.

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You’re shooting a COMMEMORATIVE!?!?!?!?!?
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In my experience they shoot pretty good and most have good fit and finish, some even cost less than similar post-64’s. Hope you get it figured out.

 

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Shoot a commemorative from the dark years?  Sure, if I can get it to load without a major hassle.  I think the reason it was unfired when I bought it was that the first owner couldn’t load it and stuck it in his vault for 47 years and then peddled it.  I bought it as a low cost shooter with a cool emblem on the butt stock.  I’ve now got it to where it’ll consistently accept 4 rounds.  After four, the loading gate acts like there’s a piece of rebar behind it.  Still workin’ it.  Better than it was though.  At least now it is a “repeating arms” carbine. 

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I picked up an unfired Post 64 Commemorative Model 94 top eject 30-30 of the 150th Anniv of the TX Rangers.  Cool looker though kinda’ rattley for a new firearm.  Problem is, the spring cover/loading gate will not push the previously inserted round forward in spite of wiggling, pushing harder, begging, swearing, and so on.  Took it apart and polished the gate to mirror smoothness.  The stamped steel door is pretty unimpressive by the way.  No improvement in function.  The first round chambers and ejects properly but that’s all this old girl is able to do.  I’ve ordered a couple more loading gates, one used one from ebay, to throw parts at the problem but I’m skeptical.  Ideas?

  

Ah yes, the post-63 Winchester manufactured rifles…  Cry

Given the general plan for a commemorative rifle is to keep it in the box and not fire it… they were excellent for that .

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Excellent point.  But, the box was gone so it’s just a lever gun with a cool butt stock medallion.  Still trying to gain better functionality.  I only mentioned the specific lineage in case somebody knew of a quirk in that particular rendition.

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Excellent point.  But, the box was gone so it’s just a lever gun with a cool butt stock medallion.  Still trying to gain better functionality.  I only mentioned the specific lineage in case somebody knew of a quirk in that particular rendition.

  

Yes, the quirk of this particular rendition is Winchester 94 rifles made after 1963.  I think Winchester received few complaints about the functioning of any commemorative rifle as few were used.  Most of the guys around here don’t own such rifles and if they did they don’t use them.  I apologize for my sarcastic comments about these rifles – if I had anything helpful to offer, I would.  But the issue is stamped parts, poor quality control, etc. 

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Yessir.  And the part giving me trouble is one of the stamped ones.  Like trying to fix an AK.  Ugh.

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Yessir.  And the part giving me trouble is one of the stamped ones.  Like trying to fix an AK.  Ugh.

  

All I can think of is that some stamp parts were not made to precise dimensions and that can be the cause of poor functioning, or they are left too rough and not adequately smoothed or polished.  

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I’ve got that critter mirror shiny and smooth but it still hangs.  It’s not exactly the shape of the vintage gate, close but not the same.  I may just have to accept a 4 round SRC and declare is partially operational.  I have too many good ole’ lever guns to spend more time on this turkey.  Thanks for humoring me.  Cheers 

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I’ve got that critter mirror shiny and smooth but it still hangs.  It’s not exactly the shape of the vintage gate, close but not the same.  I may just have to accept a 4 round SRC and declare is partially operational.  I have too many good ole’ lever guns to spend more time on this turkey.  Thanks for humoring me.  Cheers 

  

I think I would settle for that.  A four-shot carbine isn’t such a bad deal.  I have some four-shot carbines here.  They were special ordered with half magazines – but still – yours doesn’t hold any less rounds.  There’s probably not many hunting situations you will run into when you’ll need more capacity than that.  And as you say, this isn’t your only gun.  For me, most of my shooting is done at the range – and much of the time, I’m single-loading my lever guns!

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