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Hello everyone, I am a new member of the WACA and looking forward to the information that I will find and maybe be able to share with you: has anyone seen or heard of a Winchester model 101 without the model number, no information on it other than “Winchester Proof Steel” and the gauge on the gun? It is engraved on the receiver, but only has engraving on the left side. Could it be a preproduction model?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
thank you
November 7, 2015
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After your membership is recognized some photos would probably help answer your question. As it was apparently introduced in 1963 it falls a bit outside of the area of interest for many of the members here but some of us like the 101. Personally I never could find one that felt right for me.
Mike
There are a few 101 collector/enthusiasts but their interests have been centered around Kodensha Firearms (e.g. Golden Eagle rifles, the Olin-Kodensha 101 and 23 shotguns, and Parker By Winchester) rather than Winchester guns generally. You might try to locate their association, if it exists, using Google searches.
I have owned a Model 23/20 gauge, a 101/12 gauge, and a 101/28 gauge, the last English stocked. All three were cased Pigeon Grade guns. I still have the 28 because it suits me. All three were very well made but the round knob full pistol grips of the other two were curved too steeply for me. I best shoot a straight (“English”, per WRA) grip or Browning’s half-pistol grip, either round or flat knobbed.
Winchester currently offers an over/under that strongly resembles the 101 and I’m told it is built in Turkey, which isn’t surprising. The Turks are serious gunmakers intent on penetrating the American market. The first Turkish arms I saw were a little crude but so was the first Datsun automobile. I expect any Winchester branded shotgun created at Herstal Group’s behest will be well built and finished although I doubt it’s a flea weight.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Not that there is no interest here in the 101. If you can post a series of photos, I’ll bet you will get some opinions. If there are any marks you haven’t mentioned, such as “Made in Japan” or other cryptic markings, you should point them out. The more photos the better.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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