Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Winchester 1873 Carbine early rifle HELP
Avatar
tigertrout
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 4
Member Since:
November 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
February 27, 2019 - 3:27 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

DSC_0021.jpegImage Enlarger

DSC_0022.jpegImage Enlarger
DSC_0023.jpegImage Enlarger
DSC_0024.jpegImage Enlarger

 

DSC_0018-1.jpegImage Enlarger

DSC_0019.jpegImage Enlarger

DSC_0016.jpegImage Enlarger

DSC_0017.jpegImage Enlarger
I have acquired an early (pre serial number 28,000, or at least it appears that early) 1873, carbine, in very poor condition, other than the minty bore that is. it has the early dust cover and early trigger and sear combined.

The serial number is not visible, My question to the Winchester gods is, can I narrow down the date of manufacture using the assembly number on the lower tang…….? (1178)

any help is appreciated.

Sean

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments
Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1907
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
February 27, 2019 - 3:51 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 Sean, The answer is no. T/R

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4748
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
February 27, 2019 - 3:52 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Sean,

Assemble numbers have no relation to the serial number. A trained eye can sometimes read a number only from seeing a partial number. If you take some very clear pictures of the serial number in high resolution with a light from different angles I might be able pick them out. The last option is using crime lab acid to bring the number out. The only issue with that is the area of the serial number has to be polished.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1907
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
February 27, 2019 - 1:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 Sean, If you can’t pull the serial number with crime lab acid you can get some idea of the serial number range by features, if the gun is complete and original. Jim Gordan’s books give good pictures of the various changes to the model 73 and at what s/n range they occurred. If you post good pictures of the entire gun  the Forum will help. T/R

Avatar
tigertrout
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 4
Member Since:
November 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
February 27, 2019 - 2:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I will attempt to post some pics a bit later but trust me when I say poor condition as in acid corrosion I mean it.

but het we can give it a shot. no pun intended.

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4748
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
February 27, 2019 - 5:00 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Also include a pictures of the gun.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
tigertrout
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 4
Member Since:
November 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
February 27, 2019 - 11:13 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Ok pics have been added any help would be appreciated.

 

thx Sean

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4748
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
February 27, 2019 - 11:26 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Sean,

Where the serial number is suppose to be has been filed a fair bit but you might still lift a serial number. Do you have any history of how this gun came to look like it does?

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4748
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
February 27, 2019 - 11:28 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

This is what a lifted serial number looks like.

Bob

IMAG0133.jpgImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments
WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1907
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
February 28, 2019 - 12:23 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 Sean, The oval thumbprint dust cover was used from approximately 10,000 s/n to the end of the first model. If it is “original” to the gun then it was most likely  made from late 1875 to early 79. T/R

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: Bert H., tionesta1, JWA, Henry Mero, Chris D, [email protected], Pwog
Guest(s) 419
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6682
Chuck: 5993
steve004: 5283
1873man: 4748
deerhunter: 2748
Big Larry: 2578
twobit: 2541
mrcvs: 2262
Maverick: 2053
Newest Members:
Deke
Ttokar
BK7070
Johnny boy
ThomasVan
Clinkerclint
Mark Stitzer
John058
Psiska
SFCJCL
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15024
Posts: 134886

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10192
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation