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Will there even be a future of firearms ownership in the next Century?
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February 2, 2020 - 5:20 pm
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This thread on The High Road:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/100-years-from-now.862572/

The OP asks will we look at firearms produced today in 100 years with the nostalgia we have for those produced 100 years ago, or more?

The thread swiftly went off topic, but, nonetheless, the responses were thought provoking.  More than a slim minority question if private firearms ownership will even be allowed in 100 years and the few firearms left will be behind glass in a museum.

Surely, it cannot be that bad???

For one, I think it would be VERY difficult to overturn the Second Amendment.

I sure hope that what some seem to predict will be the case.  This slump in antique Winchester valuations over the last 5 years will be the least of our worries.

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100 years is not very much where history is concerned.  For example, the War Between the States, to keep it polite, was over 150 years ago and it is a daily subject in one form or another all across America and beyond, despite the fact that all too many people in academia, politics, and the media do their level best to bury it, and or demonize southerners in general, or folks from all over for that matter, if they break ranks with thoughts or actions not in line with democratic standards.  Try as they might, they cannot stifle the voice and actions  of, what,  probably over 200 million descendants from that era.  Also consider the United Kingdom and Brexit.  Then consider the European nations and their attitude toward runaway immigration, add America here, too.  There might not be as much change as some folks think during the next 100 years where gun ownership is concerned.

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I would be more concerned about the places they can actually be used. If one looks at the Urban sprawl over the last century, will there be anywhere left to go that isn’t covered in concrete and asphalt……… We have gone from 92 million in 1910 to 330 million.  Another century at that rate will put this country bouncing off the 1 billion area!!  I certainly won’t be around to see it and glad of it…..

 

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Erin Grivicich said
I would be more concerned about the places they can actually be used. If one looks at the Urban sprawl over the last century, will there be anywhere left to go that isn’t covered in concrete and asphalt……… We have gone from 92 million in 1910 to 330 million.  Another century at that rate will put this country bouncing off the 1 billion area!!  I certainly won’t be around to see it and glad of it…..

 

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Bingo!

Irony: That which needs a constituency is faced with too many people.

Those who champion the “right” to breed like rabbits sew the seeds of all they complain about.

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Erin Grivicich said
We have gone from 92 million in 1910 to 330 million.

That “give us your tired, etc” rhetoric attached to the base of the Statue of Liberty in 1903 (but not originally part of it) is CONSTANTLY dredged up by American traitors to justify the invasion of our country by the Turd World.  In 1903, the US population was 80,632,000.  And that same rhetoric is STILL supposed to be justified with the country as densely populated as it is NOW???

The principal factor keeping the Turd World the Turd World despite untold BILLIONS in Western economic aid poured into those countries is their reproductive irresponsibility, which doesn’t change when they crash our borders–it’s an essential part of what they consider their “culture.” 

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clarence said

Erin Grivicich said
We have gone from 92 million in 1910 to 330 million.

That “give us your tired, etc” rhetoric attached to the base of the Statue of Liberty in 1903 (but not originally part of it) is CONSTANTLY dredged up by American traitors to justify the invasion of our country by the Turd World.  In 1903, the US population was 80,632,000.  And that same rhetoric is STILL supposed to be justified with the country as densely populated as it is NOW???

The principal factor keeping the Turd World the Turd World despite untold BILLIONS in Western economic aid poured into those countries is their reproductive irresponsibility, which doesn’t change when they crash our borders–it’s an essential part of what they consider their “culture.”   

I see many an American doing the same thing, and if I had to search for a work ethic, I’d sooner find one in someone who risked everything to get here and who remains hungry.  As a small business man who hires, I’ve not been real impressed with many of my fellow citizens (there are exceptions, especially older folks), and how much I pay doesn’t seem to have much to do with it.  Your mileage may very. 

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I have to wonder what the Native population was thinking when the white population went from a few thousand to that 80,000,000+. I’ll bet it was kind of like what We’re thinking to-day about the growth of the non-white population.  EH?

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Incessant population growth and urbanization is not good relative to firearms ownership.

The HUGE problem is that the infiltration of a younger populace, even if from less desirable originating countries is essential for growth, and thus a rising stock market and a working population to support social security so that older folks can actually retire and wealth can be increased.

I don’t like that fact and don’t know what the alternative is, but it doesn’t bode well for a population base that can enjoy freedom to use and appreciate fine Winchesters.

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Henry Mero said
I have to wonder what the Native population was thinking when the white population went from a few thousand to that 80,000,000+. I’ll bet it was kind of like what We’re thinking to-day about the growth of the non-white population.  EH?  

Yup!  I’ve watched dark and bloody hunting grounds get pinched out by subdivisions and ranchettes, and they aren’t owned by immigrants.  Not much can be done.  The human race is what it is, just like ants, and I’m one of them. 

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Huck Riley said

Yup!  I’ve watched dark and bloody hunting grounds get pinched out by subdivisions and ranchettes, and they aren’t owned by immigrants.  Not much can be done.  The human race is what it is, just like ants, and I’m one of them.   

 And there is a real shame about that. Reclamation is far more expensive than breaking virgin soil. How many thousands of square miles are covered in abandoned manufacturing facilities, strip malls, mom & pop shops etc. that are sitting vacant doing nothing other than covering that space with concrete and asphalt. Habitat loss of both kinds, human and wildlife. Yet we just keep expanding the urban sprawl. Something has to change…….. Just my thoughts. It won’t effect me or probably not my children. My grand children and their siblings will be the ones that will be witness to what ever ill fated future the human race is destined for.  Sorry, don’t want to sound like a dooms day sayer, just speculation if things continue on the current path we are traveling.

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Huck Riley said    Those who champion the “right” to breed like rabbits sew the seeds of all they complain about.

Who champions that right except liberals?  It’s a fundamental “human right” to breed like rats, they say.  Can you believe that Medicaid (i.e. welfare) benefits in NY state include fertility treatments??? But it makes brilliant political logic–more welfare dependents equals more votes for the Party that creates them.  Any doubt which one that is?  

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Henry Mero said
I have to wonder what the Native population was thinking when the white population went from a few thousand to that 80,000,000+. I’ll bet it was kind of like what We’re thinking to-day about the growth of the non-white population.  EH?  

The Natives were right to be worried; but not worried enough to suspend their inter-tribal hostilities & unite.  But don’t understand your point–that because the Natives didn’t protect what they had from foreign invasion, neither should we?

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Reading over this thread here I can see that a couple of posts might not be, shall we say, maintaining the general high quality and civility of this forum. We all may have certain things that we feel very strongly about in politics, religion, etc., but if it doesn’t contribute to the overall high quality of a forum dedicated to Winchester collecting, then we may not want to post it on a WACA discussion.

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