I have a First Edition Madis Book that I took to Reno to get signed by George. He said that the unsigned “Books” were very rare, as he signed most of them. He even had me show it to one of the guys at his table. So we left it unsigned. I still wonder if he was just pulling my leg. He did sign and write a note in another of my books under the picture of one of my guns. I think the most unusual “Madis Book” I have has the cover on upside down and backwards. Just babbling…. Roger B.
rogertherelic said
I have a First Edition Madis Book that I took to Reno to get signed by George. He said that the unsigned “Books” were very rare, as he signed most of them. He even had me show it to one of the guys at his table. So we left it unsigned. I still wonder if he was just pulling my leg. He did sign and write a note in another of my books under the picture of one of my guns. I think the most unusual “Madis Book” I have has the cover on upside down and backwards. Just babbling…. Roger B.
The unsigned Madis 1of1000 books do exist. But I never thought they were anything special – just leftovers that never got signed.
I have a First Ed. – Winchester Book, Winchester Handbook and a Winchester Era with the dust jackets all unsigned.
I also got a Winchester Model 12 Book with the above three but it was signed.
Picked up all 4 in mint “As New” condition for $250 CAD about 3 yrs ago from the son of a deceased gun-shop owner.
All good things to those who wait.
I can’t find old postings on the forum easily, and I guess some of you guys have a short memory.
Here is a list Bert wrote up a while back. It is a good comprehensive list and a good place to start.
Added to that list would be “The Story of the Winchester 1of1000 & 1of100 Rifles” by Dr. Ed Lewis.
Also “Winchester’s New Model of 1873 Vol. 1 & 2” by James D Gordon.
Also “Winchester Model 1895 Last of the Classic Lever Actions” by Rob Kassab & Brad Dunbar.
I would add that anything written by R.L. Wilson, are good for what they are and I would carefully “Scrutinize” them.
Also in general none of these books are without there inherit errors and don’t confuse opinion with actual facts.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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A good library will pay for itself several times over. Well worth the investment. Search & search and you will find books at very reasonable prices, as long as you are patient. Usually, if you have to have a book nearly immediately, you will overpay.
I find I have all the titles I generally require currently, and I even seek out titles of similar firearms of which I do not own any of, because I enjoy learning and might just stumble across something I never would have considered collecting because it is reasonably priced or even a rarity based on information in my library.
Thanks everyone. The information is very helpful. I do understand and appreciate that investment in books will save money in the long run. Before being bitten by the Winchester Lever bug, I spent most of my adult life collecting and studying Japanese Arms and Armor from the 13th century to early 19th century. The market for Japanese Armor and Arms is flooded with fakes and composite sets, pulled together to fool the unsuspected buyer. Without a treasure of trusted reading material, one could spend, and I know one collector who has, hundreds of thousands of dollars on fakes and cobbled together rubbish.
This was the basis for my request, I picked up some books to research my 1876, and found it to be lacking/missing data in some aspects, and wrong in others. While all books will contain some errors, having a wider library enables one to search across multiple sources to corroborate or find the error. However, knowing who these authors are that are more trusted than others can be shown from what other collectors read and trust.
Lastly, no books can take the place of actually handling hundreds of these rifles and learning this way. I have yet to experience this, so must rely on reading and photos to help fill the gap.
I appreciate the willingness you all exhibit to include the new folks. Makes learning a lot more fun.
Justin
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