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May 24, 2012
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apache said
Mike;If you want to see what it’s like to try to get Historical Provenance on a Winchester, then try doing what I did. If that gets you interested enough in what I’m refuring to then read my article in the Winchester Collector, the summer edition of 2006. I describe what took about 14 years of research into the probable history of an 1866 carbine that was involved in two major historical events in the last quarter of the 19th century. If you’re willing to go as far as I did, you’ll probably find out much more about your Winchesters than a Cody letter can ever possibly tell you. Good luck !!
Apache ( ya ta hey )
Absolutely a pleasure to read your professionally researched story about your 1866. Any historian worth their salt would say the ball is in the naysayers park at this time, or lose all credibility to their reputation. As for what that will get one in terms of $$$, I couldn’t say. (That said, I can tell you are far from being a proud old Southern boy! Still a great story! )
James
December 21, 2006
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Boy, talk about interesting provenance. I just acquired Win. mod. “94 ser#579563 at the Lakeland Fl. gun show. It is a 22” r.b. xtra lite, takedown with 1/2 mag. several deluxe features, p.g checkered, 1x wood, s.g.b., sling swivels and 3 special Lyman sites It has the large W stamped underside of action and barrel. This particular gun is in the Madis book,p434,and is said to be a “missionary” gun, used by factory sponsored shooters etc. At that time the gun was owned by Phillip Leonhardt I sure would be interesting to know who this gun was made for and used by. Maybe I could just say the gun was made for Ad Topperwein, but I don’t think anyone would believe Me. Oh ya and the gun is in very nice original condition. A find!!!!
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
March 31, 2009
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I was going through some family paperwork today and found a receipt from 1985 where my Dad had traded in a couple guns on an A5
Browning. One of the guns was my very first Winchester. My Dad gave it to me in about 1959. The receipt shows he got $265 for it. The serial number was 669335 which places it around 1930 manufacture. Until today I never knew where that gun went. With trade in he only paid $75 for the new Browning.
November 2, 2009
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What was that first Winchester?
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
I was going through some family paperwork today and found a receipt from 1985 where my Dad had traded in a couple guns on an A5
Browning. One of the guns was my very first Winchester. My Dad gave it to me in about 1959. The receipt shows he got $265 for it. The serial number was 669335 which places it around 1930 manufacture. Until today I never knew where that gun went. With trade in he only paid $75 for the new Browning.
If you are referring to a Model 90, serial number 669335 was manufactured in August of the year 1920 (Ned Schwing’s reference)
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
March 31, 2009
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Sorry guys. It was a model 12 in 16 ga.
February 8, 2013
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JWM94;
You guessed it right, I’m not a “Good Old Southern Boy”. I am however a “Good Old Arizona Boy” that’s spent many years in New York City. Did I say, “New York City”? My wife’s family on her Dads side are the Southerners, all being born and raised in Virginia. Her Dads family, several generations back fought against the “War of Northern Aggression” while some other of them fought for the Union. Not that any of this really matters when it comes to Provenance of any of the Winchesters we’re interested in. I just thought I’d throw a little family history in since you mentioned it. Anyway I’m glad you enjoyed my article in the 2006 WACA magazine. It’s what makes the time spent worthwhile when others get something out of ones work. Thank you JWM94.
Apache ( Ya Ta Hey )
May 24, 2012
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apache said
JWM94;You guessed it right, I’m not a “Good Old Southern Boy”. I am however a “Good Old Arizona Boy” that’s spent many years in New York City. Did I say, “New York City”? My wife’s family on her Dads side are the Southerners, all being born and raised in Virginia. Her Dads family, several generations back fought against the “War of Northern Aggression” while some other of them fought for the Union. Not that any of this really matters when it comes to Provenance of any of the Winchesters we’re interested in. I just thought I’d throw a little family history in since you mentioned it. Anyway I’m glad you enjoyed my article in the 2006 WACA magazine. It’s what makes the time spent worthwhile when others get something out of ones work. Thank you JWM94.
Apache ( Ya Ta Hey )
Ya gotta just love our history! Thanks for the interesting notes, Apache! Of course all of my folks were Confederate soldiers and families…and doubtless dirt poor. But Jesse and his kind are our famous heroes to the core! But that’s another story!
James (sho o nuff) 
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