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Preferred 92 caliber?
November 7, 2020
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What is the preferred caliber for collectors for m1892 & your personal choice.
.25 W.C.F.
.32 W.C.F.
.38 W.C.F.
.44 W.C.F

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November 8, 2020
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I guess as most collectors, we all would prefer a nice .44 cal 92!  I would definitely enjoy any 92, in nice condition if the price were right! Nothing like a nice clean 92, in great condition, especially with a little history! Kinda on the rare side, don't you think!Smile

November 8, 2020
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Yes I agree limestone nice 92’s seem to be a harder find. My direction in collecting has changed & now looking to add a 92 to go with my 73, 86, 94, & 95. Unfortunately affordability is always the first consideration. It will be some time before the 66, 76, & 85 are part of the addiction but a 92 in 44WCF could make its way as an early Christmas present to myself.

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November 8, 2020
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Interesting to see the addiction slowly take hold of the younger people Laugh

I have 92's in the four main calibers and I like them all.  I handload for them all.  They are all great!  A favorite?  Nope.  They all have their strengths and place in the scheme of things.  

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Interesting to see the addiction slowly take hold of the younger people Laugh

I think the availability of the Winchester/Miroku 1892's and the other clones can be credited for the re-awakened interest in the 1892.

Prior to this I would only rarely encounter unaffordable top condition pieces occasionally at the shows, or beat up "clunkers".

Now, if only someone would produce a top quality book on the 1892 - that would be nice.

( To the original question - 38 or 44WCF ).

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Of course I’d prefer a nice .44 but the reality is I prefer something that doesn’t command a premium because of the bore diameter. In my limited experience the same money buys a nice 38 (or 32) or a fair 44. Since I nearly always want to shoot my collectable Winchesters I’ll take condition over caliber almost every time. Another factor is that in spite of being a Clint Eastwood fan I’ve always avoided the 43 caliber. My first 1892 had a crappy bore and a 23” octagonal barrel in 32WCF. Now it has a relined bore, Lyman 17M front sight and a Marble tang sight. Looks a little odd but it’s a fun pinker. My other 92 is a nice rifle in 38WCF. Can’t recall shooting it but it’s a nice rifle purchased for much less than a similar rifle in 44. I haven’t found a 92 in 25-20 with a decent bore yet but I’m not really looking as I don’t cast for or reload that cartridge. 

 

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I have 4 M1892's. One round bbl., one oct. bbl., one oct. bbl. takedown, and one carbine. All 44's if you will. I also have a very nice M53 in 44 as well as one in 32-20. I have never fired any of them.   Big Larry

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Of course I’d prefer a nice .44 but the reality is I prefer something that doesn’t command a premium because of the bore diameter. In my limited experience the same money buys a nice 38 (or 32) or a fair 44. Since I nearly always want to shoot my collectable Winchesters I’ll take condition over caliber almost every time. Another factor is that in spite of being a Clint Eastwood fan I’ve always avoided the 43 caliber. My first 1892 had a crappy bore and a 23” octagonal barrel in 32WCF. Now it has a relined bore, Lyman 17M front sight and a Marble tang sight. Looks a little odd but it’s a fun pinker. My other 92 is a nice rifle in 38WCF. Can’t recall shooting it but it’s a nice rifle purchased for much less than a similar rifle in 44. I haven’t found a 92 in 25-20 with a decent bore yet but I’m not really looking as I don’t cast for or reload that cartridge. 

 

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Yes makes sense to me Mike. I had two 73’s (38 & 44) so when I decided to sell one the 38 was higher condition & kept it instead(I have a 73 SRC in 44 to fill the void) but I certainly agree on condition over calibre & same applies to a 92.
Is it possible there was a desire back when collecting started to gain momentum, to acquire the bigger calibers of a particular model because many guns were still being used to hunt with & today any vintage caliber rifle in good condition is the desired?

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My 92 is a 32-20 src as I had a choice of it or a rough 44 I chose the 32-20.

im happy with it but the choice is very limited in UK

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Hello RickC,

I have a bunch of Model 1892's in all different calibers.  I tend to try to buy a bit unique configurations, followed by condition and the caliber choice is last on my list.  Size does not count.  It all comes down to your personal preference, check book size, and intended usage.  Don't collect by other persons desires.  I would always say buy what YOU want.  When you do get around to getting serious I am happy to answer any questions and help in any way.  Do to before you pull out the checkbook!  I hate passing out bad news.

And David I am working on that book!  

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Hello RickC,

I have a bunch of Model 1892's in all different calibers.  I tend to try to buy a bit unique configurations, followed by condition and the caliber choice is last on my list.  Size does not count.  It all comes down to your personal preference, check book size, and intended usage.  Don't collect by other persons desires.  I would always say buy what YOU want.  When you do get around to getting serious I am happy to answer any questions and help in any way.  Do to before you pull out the checkbook!  I hate passing out bad news.

And David I am working on that book!  

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Wise advise Michael & will do. Appreciate the offer. Nice collection also.

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Geez Michael I'm envious, very nice. My favorite '92 cal. is the 25-20, reasons being 1. I'm not a game hunter but I do like rabbit,2. We have a .270 cal. restriction in southern Ontario so I couldn't legally use a .38 or .44  here, but I do know the .44-40 is the most desireable for collectors, I do have a few of them also. I just, reluctantly sold a beautiful 14" trapper in .44 in order to finance a couple other purchases. Rick, I do have available a pretty good '92 s.r.c. in .44 available, it is one contracted for the China Navigation Co. ser#895359 .give Me a holler

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Michael is the 92 src more desired over the 92 rifle configurations among collecters?

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Michael is the 92 src more desired over the 92 rifle configurations among collecters?

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There is a reason that there are redheads, blondes, brunettes, and ladies with black hair.  We are all drawn to something different.  I have just over 40 Model 1892's and only 4 of them are carbines.  But I would be willing to bet that there is more than one guy out there who only has SRC's in his gun cabinet.  Carbines make up just over 30% of the total production but there is no doubt that octagon barrel sporting rifles are more popular in the collectors world.  

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There is a reason that there are redheads, blondes, brunettes, and ladies with black hair.  We are all drawn to something different.  I have just over 40 Model 1892's and only 4 of them are carbines.  But I would be willing to bet that there is more than one guy out there who only has SRC's in his gun cabinet.  Carbines make up just over 30% of the total production but there is no doubt that octagon barrel sporting rifles are more popular in the collectors world.  

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Thanks for the reply Michael. I guess it holds true, you just can’t deny the rifle with octagon barrel in the collectors world.
Now an 86 SRC at 4.4% of production might be different.

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I think it is common for collectors to buy for rarity sake.  That is, they might not even think about whether they like the configuration they are buying.  If it is rare, they want it.  For example, the M1892 or M1886 (or M1894) Muskets are a variation that I do not find aesthetically pleasing.  However, I want one.  Their rarity has much to do with my desire for one.  

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I think it is common for collectors to buy for rarity sake.  That is, they might not even think about whether they like the configuration they are buying.  If it is rare, they want it.  For example, the M1892 or M1886 (or M1894) Muskets are a variation that I do not find aesthetically pleasing.  However, I want one.  Their rarity has much to do with my desire for one.    

Totally agree Steve. It felt like I was reading my own thoughts.

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I’ve watched too many western movies and TV shows not to want a 92 SRC. Only problem is I also want condition and so far I haven’t stumbled over one in the condition I want at a price I’m willing to pay. I’ll get serious about finding one someday, gotta thin the herd a bit first.

 

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I’ve watched too many western movies and TV shows not to want a 92 SRC. Only problem is I also want condition and so far I haven’t stumbled over one in the condition I want at a price I’m willing to pay. I’ll get serious about finding one someday, gotta thin the herd a bit first.

 

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Mike - is there just one chambering you are set on, or are you open to various chamberings?

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I enjoy collecting original special order and rare guns, for the 1892's my caliber of choice is the 38-40.  Certain configurations seem to be a dime a dozen in the other calibers, but much harder to find in 38-40 IMHO.  And a lot of times they can be had for much less than the cost of a 44-40, all things being equal.  Over the years Ive sold off most of my 1892's that werent special order or were in calibers other than 38-40 - with the intent of having a collecting focused towards obtaining as many configurations as possible in 38-40.   Plus I enjoy loading for and hunting with the 38-40.  Rarity, configuration, caliber, and eye appeal are more important to me most cases than condition, but condition never hurts either. 

If I had a second caliber choice, purely for shooting and hunting, it would be the 32-20      

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