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Is it safe to ask a S&W question?

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Is it safe to ask a S&W question?
  

Yes, go for it!

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I am pretty confident these go to a 1911 but I cannot seem to find any with the top of the cutting on the left grip (right in pictures) and I cannot find any information with the checkering pattern like this. Any ideas? 

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I don’t know why as I’m not much of a S&W guy – but my immediate reaction was Model 39.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1152602106

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steve004 said
I don’t know why as I’m not much of a S&W guy – but my immediate reaction was Model 39.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1152602106
  

you know – you are very likely correct! 

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Colt-1911-L.JPG1911 and 1911 A 1 grips are similar to these 1911 grips in shape.

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1911 and 1911 A 1 grips are similar to these 1911 grips in shape.
  

That is what I was thinking but I am certain Steve has it nailed. I am going to find someone who has a 39 and check it out. 

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Pretty sure Steve is right, some of the other S&W single stack autos including Performance Center pistols had very similar grips. 

 

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Those are indeed for a Smith 39.  The model was introduced in the mid-Fifties about the same time Colt’s Commander started being chambered for the 9mm Parabellum. NATO was pushing for the nine to become the standard sidearm and subgun cartridge and Smith and Colt each fielded a proposed American officer’s pistol.  The Army conducted a trial of sorts but the idea went nowhere. 

The Model 39 and its hi-cap sibling Model 59 rocked along with modest civilian sales until Vietnam. In the late Fifties and through all of the Sixties I never saw one in a store because they were in demand by troops headed for Southeast Asia. Nine millimeter was available at American bases because other NATO allies did provide some troops. I’m told it was provided in pre-loaded Browning P-35:magazines, just as 45 ball came in preloaded 1911 magazines. A friend who served as a Junior artillery officer said the P-35:was popular with gun crews, who were very busy but feared being overrun. 

I took a like-new and in-the-box Model 39 as a fee about 1970 and found it innovative, reliable, accurate, and well-made but hard to feed — it liked ball and not much else. I traded it straight across for  a brand new Browning 22 automatic (the little takedown rifle) and a Hartmann-style factory hard case to go with it. That pistol was still hard to find and the dealer wanted it. 

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Sweet – thanks for all of that good information guys – glad I mustered up the courage to ask 

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Sweet – thanks for all of that good information guys – glad I mustered up the courage to ask 
  

I’ll neither confirm nor deny having a Model 39…PM if you need a duty holster or magazine pouch. Wink

 

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I can confirm that I do not own a Model 39 but I am certain I have a set of wood grips and I am fairly certain that I have 2 single stack magazines too (it would only make sense that is what those go to. They came in a package deal with something else I was wanting. One of those, you have to buy all of this if you want that deal.

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One last thing. The 39 was not drop safe; it had no firing pin block although it did have an inertial firing pin that did not rest on a live round. The 39A had a firing pin block. [For relevance, Colt’s 1911 did not incorporate a firing pin block until Series 80 and higher. A cocked and locked Series 70 Colt dropped from 4′ onto a hard floor will fire even though the sear was not forced. It wants a Titanium firing pin.]  Zebulon out.

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Zebulon said
One last thing. The 39 was not drop safe; it had no firing pin block although it did have an inertial firing pin that did not rest on a live round. The 39A had a firing pin block. [For relevance, Colt’s 1911 did not incorporate a firing pin block until Series 80 and higher. A cocked and locked Series 70 Colt dropped from 4′ onto a hard floor will fire even though the sear was not forced. It wants a Titanium firing pin.]  Zebulon out.
  

OH gosh.  The 39 can’t be sent to Ca.  But if one’s already here I could buy it.  The only Smiths that I have left are a 1990’s 357 and a Schofield. 

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Another problem with the 39 is that the barrel lugs apparently didn’t engage the slide in a consistent manner and vertical fliers were common. I really liked the grip and frame shape, for an alloy frame handgun it was very pleasant to shoot. 

 

 

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Another problem with the 39 is that the barrel lugs apparently didn’t engage the slide in a consistent manner and vertical fliers were common. I really liked the grip and frame shape, for an alloy frame handgun it was very pleasant to shoot. 
 
 
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Concur. The design was really advanced for 1955 and very comfortable to shoot. I’ve always preferred single-stack automatics and the 39 was “right-sized.”  The factory barrel could be gunsmithed by adding to the lugs and then hand-fitting or there were custom barrels. Not cheap. I never owned one of the later 4-digit models but there was one little single-stack marked “Ladysmith” that burly male investigators really liked because it was so compact and reliable. Smith finally made a version of it without the feminine  rollmark. Of course, the 10-round P365 has pretty much made all the foregoing pocket nines obsolete. 

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