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February 26, 2023 - 5:48 pm
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Doesn’t mention recall.  I wonder why they wanted to know about the guns?

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10 bucks merely for the info requested was not small change.  A recall for specific guns makes no sense to me; if some defect had been discovered, it would cover a range of numbers.  And why Scribner’s, when there were numerous firearms periodicals more likely to reach gun owners?

Now explain the illustration above it.  Not used to illustrate a story, & standing alone, merely seems irrelevant; not humorous, not clever, not apropos of anything.

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I’ve never seen anything like that before.  It is quite intriguing.  Very difficult to think of an explanation. It would be interesting to know what the ledger says about each rifle.  Some commonality?  For example, all nickel plated.

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In the March issue of the 1982 Gun Report they tried to research that ad and the only conclusion they came up with is it was a advertising campaign. The 3 73’s haven’t showed up as still in existence in my survey.

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Bob, are the 73’s actually listed in the Ledgers?

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steve004 said It would be interesting to know what the ledger says about each rifle.  Some commonality?  For example, all nickel plated.
  

That would make sense, esp. since plating nickel on bare steel without a copper wash-coat, as it was done at the time, did not provide the best adhesion.

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Chuck said
Bob, are the 73’s actually listed in the Ledgers?

  

I posted the ledger information and they are listed. I also checked the 76’s and they are not in a old survey I have of them except for it showing up in the Gun Report article.

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1873man said

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Bob, are the 73’s actually listed in the Ledgers?

  

I posted the ledger information and they are listed. I also checked the 76’s and they are not in a old survey I have of them except for it showing up in the Gun Report article.

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Sorry Bob.  When I looked at the data I didn’t realize that is was from the Ledger.

Who did the 76 survey?

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It looks like the article didn’t address the three M1886’s.  

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Well, this is interesting.  The three 1876 rifles are in the active survey.  This is the survey with material gathered by Jim Gordon, and then Rick Bachman.  Now I am working on it.  I was told that rifles in the survey were known to exist in collections, either private or public.  Here is the information listed:

63,515 is a rifle, .40-60, half round barrel, half magazine

60,947 is a rifle, Express (50-95)

62,006 is a rifle, .45-60, 30 inch extra-heavy octagon barrel

No other information listed for these three which usually means all other features are standard.  All these guns are toward the end of the 1876 production and may be parts clean-up.

I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

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1873man said
In the March issue of the 1982 Gun Report they tried to research that ad and the only conclusion they came up with is it was a advertising campaign.

Queer sort of ad campaign.  Can’t think why any prospective customer would be more encouraged to buy after reading this. Would tend to arouse my suspicion that something was amiss.  More insight might be provided if same ad appeared in leading sporting periodicals, The Rifle, Forest & Stream, etc., where some reader might well have written in to ask “What’s this all about?”

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Another interesting aspect is that Winchester was not interested in the information on any of the guns – if it would be coming from a dealer.  If they were interested in actual information, why would it matter who it came from?

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Very interesting!

Since it is exactly 3 serial numbers from all of the current models that were in production at that time I suspect it is just a funky marketing campaign and has nothing to do with a recall or desired information.  It forces everyone (by means of curiosity) to go dig out their Winchester’s to check the serial number and gets them to handle their quality Winchester and perhaps thinking about cleaning it, buying more ammo or upgrading to a newer model.  Sneaky marketing tactics……

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Very, very interesting. I think I am going to agree with JWA. Get them out of the closet and in your hands. Heck $10.00!!!!! whole lot of cash back then.haha made you look campaign.

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Very, very interesting. I think I am going to agree with JWA. Get them out of the closet and in your hands. Heck $10.00!!!!! whole lot of cash back then.haha made you look campaign.

  

Added to this, it got people talking about Winchesters.  After you checked the serial numbers on your own, you’d be mentioning it to friends, neighbors and relatives – most would have owned at least one Winchester.  TEN DOLLARS TO BE HAD!

I wonder if any of money was actually paid out?

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I think a marketing ploy is pretty far fetched and maybe my idea is, too.  Could be these guns failed to show up in year end inventory as “sold and shipped”.   I suppose it’s possible they were stolen from warehouse racks and sold under the table.

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Chuck said

Who did the 76 survey?

  

Like Bill said it came from Jim Gordon. The 76’s were not known to be in existence in the survey. The source for them is noted as the Gun Report not a individual or auction etc. It would be interesting to check the other models to see if they have showed up or not.

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1873man said

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Bob, are the 73’s actually listed in the Ledgers?

  

I posted the ledger information and they are listed. I also checked the 76’s  in a old survey I have of them, The source of the 76’s is listed as the Gun Report article.

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