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For the last several days I’ve been holed up in the room where the magic happens since I can’t figure a better way to ride out an ice storm. After messing with classic cartridges all day it’s hard to beat a cocktail and an old DVD. Last two nights have featured some of my favorite firearms in supporting roles. Rough Riders always makes me think I need an 1895 SRC, a Krag rifle and a 7 1/2″ Colt revolver to make my collection complete. Opening scene of Desperate Trail features a nice 1886 in what must be 45-70. Since I don’t tire of Sam Elliott, old movies or old guns easily I believe I’ll watch You Know My Name tonight.
Only ice I encountered today was in a shady corner of a country road by the range, my driveway and a few chips in some excellent bourbon. They offset each other nicely!
Mike
December 9, 2002
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Mike,
That’s a great way to hunker down under those conditions, as I’m glad it didn’t get worse for you, and lose power.
I can’t wait to see the 7 1/2 inch Colt, after you acquire it. An 86 in 45-70, is Standard medicine, in any configuration. A src, in the 95, sure peaks my interest! Had a few Craig’s years ago, and don’t need another, as they truly have their place in History. Gotta have a want list, it keeps us going!
I never tire of watching Sam Elliot pry his craft. He’s pretty good at it. Between his deep voice and his thick mustache, he rings Cowboy, to me. IMO!
Anthony
September 22, 2011
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Sam Elliot is a good actor but I lost a lot of respect for him when he shot his mouth off about who he was voting for in the 2024 Election—a very anti 2A candidate.
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I have several friends with political views that differ from mine, Ian. I’m sure that’s a common situation in his business.
Mike
September 22, 2011
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TXGunNut said
I have several friends with political views that differ from mine, Ian. I’m sure that’s a common situation in his business.
Mike
Actually, probably not. Most of Hollywood is rabidly anti 2A.
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I have to agree with Mike. Living about 30 miles south of Hollywood I know a bunch of guys that are big collectors that are Liberals and in the business. I don’t agree with being a Liberal but we agree to not talk politics.
You may want to check your sources when talking about Sam Elliot.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/384332846340985/posts/1374034240704169/
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mrcvs said
Sam Elliot is a good actor but I listen to a lot of respect when he shot his mouth off about who he was voting for in the 2024 Election—a very anti 2A candidate.
Ian,
I am also well aware of that, but choose to ignore that fact with many like him, as I try to keep my political views off the forum, and out of my conversation.
I just enjoy the Cowboy entertainment! 
Anthony
September 22, 2011
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Chuck said
I have to agree with Mike. Living about 30 miles south of Hollywood I know a bunch of guys that are big collectors that are Liberals and in the business. I don’t agree with being a Liberal but we agree to not talk politics.
You may want to check your sources when talking about Sam Elliot.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/384332846340985/posts/1374034240704169/
Yes, I agree, Sam Elliott is very pro 2 A. That wasn’t the issue. I was just pointing out he supported a very anti 2 A candidate. This isn’t politics, just the facts.
It’s difficult to support anti 2 A candidates. Maybe others disagree.
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Watched The Shootist tonight. All Colt’s other than a few shots of a nice enough 92 SRC. I suppose this movie is why I like the looks of an engraved blue gun with antique ivory grips. I have some social equipment that wears antique ivory now and then. Some of the best actors to grace the big screen were honored to be in that movie. There was a time that folks in Hollywood had character, some still do.
I grew up in a town where one party held most elected positions, they were all good people. About forty years ago the tide changed and a good friend lost his job in a landslide straight ticket election because he was loyal to the party who helped him get elected in the previous elections. In October of 1862 41 people in the county where I now reside were hanged for their political beliefs. I know some damned fine people that I disagree with politically.
We’re here to talk about Winchesters.
Mike
September 22, 2011
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TXGunNut said
Watched The Shootist tonight. All Colt’s other than a few shots of a nice enough 92 SRC. I suppose this movie is why I like the looks of an engraved blue gun with antique ivory grips. I have some social equipment that wears antique ivory now and then. Some of the best actors to grace the big screen were honored to be in that movie. There was a time that folks in Hollywood had character, some still do.
I grew up in a town where one party held most elected positions, they were all good people. About forty years ago the tide changed and a good friend lost his job in a landslide straight ticket election because he was loyal to the party who helped him get elected in the previous elections. In October of 1862 41 people in the county where I now reside were hanged for their political beliefs. I know some damned fine people that I disagree with politically.
We’re here to talk about Winchesters.
Mike
The Shootist is an excellent movie as long as you can pardon the opening scene which says 1879 and John Wayne is firing a Colt Single Action Army revolver with a crescent ejector rod head whereas the bullseye ejector rod head was the only style in existence in 1879.😄
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Most of the move takes place in 1901, would the crescent ejector be in use then? I suppose an earlier style would be correct as Books apparently had these for awhile. I’m obviously not a Colt collector!
Mike
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TXGunNut said
Most of the move takes place in 1901, would the crescent in use then? I suppose an earlier style would be correct as Books apparently had these for awhile. I’m obviously not a Colt collector!
Mike
The opening scene shows flashbacks and it says 1879 but he’s shooting a revolver with a crescent style ejector rod head and that didn’t come out until 1882 in civilian model revolvers. It wasn’t until 1884 the “U.S.” marked Cavalry Model utilized this style of ejector rod head.
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Ian-
Good eye, I think some of the flashbacks came from even older movies that didn’t sweat the details. I’m very careful with my antique ivory grips so I cringe every time Ron Howard’s character tosses that beautiful Colt across the barroom.
Mike
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Just watched Ride the high Country with Randoff Scott. A later dated Western. Warren Oats, who was a bad guy used a Model 8 Remington. The other Bad men were using a Winchester Model 1895, and what appeared to be a light weight Model 1886. Some good fire power!
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There were a lot of 1870’s-80’s post civil war “battles” fought on the siver screen and t.v., with Winchester 1894′ s and 1892’s and others, that weren’t yet manufactured. How ever it made for great entertainment when I was a kid and didn’t know the difference and wouldn’t have cared any ways, it was always so great to see the “white hat” guys over come insurmountable odds and beat up on the “black hat” guys in the end. I usually wear a black stetson hat and I’ll be damned if it’ll stay on My head when I’m on the Harley, unlike those fellas that seldom lost their hat while on horseback during a wild chase. 
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TXGunNut said
Ian-
Good eye, I think some of the flashbacks came from even older movies that didn’t sweat the details. I’m very careful with my antique ivory grips so I cringe every time Ron Howard’s character tosses that beautiful Colt across the barroom.
Mike
I tried years ago to research the provenance of the SAA used in the Shootist. At least one source claimed that they were Cimmaron clones, while others said they were genuine Colt SAA. Not sure the Hollywood folks would know or appreciate the difference.
Paul
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TXGunNut said
Ian-
Good eye, I think some of the flashbacks came from even older movies that didn’t sweat the details. I’m very careful with my antique ivory grips so I cringe every time Ron Howard’s character tosses that beautiful Colt across the barroom.
Mike
Wow, Mike, You’re preaching to the Choir on those grips. Even if Stem bridge made the plastic aftermarket grips, or had them made, but I can surely understand you’re feelings!
Henry Mero said
There were a lot of 1870’s-80’s post civil war “battles” fought on the siver screen and t.v., with Winchester 1894′ s and 1892’s and others, that weren’t yet manufactured. How ever it made for great entertainment when I was a kid and didn’t know the difference and wouldn’t have cared any ways, it was always so great to see the “white hat” guys over come insurmountable odds and beat up on the “black hat” guys in the end. I usually wear a black stetson hat and I’ll be damned if it’ll stay on My head when I’m on the Harley, unlike those fellas that seldom lost their hat while on horseback during a wild chase.
I agree Henry!
Nevada Paul said
TXGunNut said
Ian-
Good eye, I think some of the flashbacks came from even older movies that didn’t sweat the details. I’m very careful with my antique ivory grips so I cringe every time Ron Howard’s character tosses that beautiful Colt across the barroom.
Mike
I tried years ago to research the provenance of the SAA used in the Shootist. At least one source claimed that they were Cimmaron clones, while others said they were genuine Colt SAA. Not sure the Hollywood folks would know or appreciate the difference.
Paul
Good Point Paul,
We’ve all seen many a firearms that we’re stated to be period correct, as many members have commented on, in the movie la la land, and we also have noticed as Mike has stated, that in the beginning, when several movies show a date of the time frame, that the movie was supposedly taken place, it solidifies our thoughts and as collectors, and historical Cowboy buffs, as many of us are, we chuckle to ourselves, and on some occasions out loud.
Anthony
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Speaking of movies and firearms, anyone ever noticed the 1892/94 SRC in Full Metal Jacket?
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1892takedown said
Speaking of movies and firearms, anyone ever noticed the 1892/94 SRC in Full Metal Jacket?
Nope, will keep my eyes peeled. Can you give me a hint?
And then there was the beautiful blue sky with con trails in the Desperate Trail. Not uncommon in westerns but fun to watch for. I don’t guess we can blame that on the prop guy! The Lonesome Dove movies had lots of out-of-period firearms but I enjoy them regularly.
Mike
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