clarence said

I’m going to the Convention Saturday to ask for my partial rebate of dues that were dedicated by Wayne’s World to his wardrobe, which I think should include an orange jump suit. Zebulon said

THAT is the reason I’d like to be there, with my placard & bullhorn; would they dare evict a Benefactor, leaning on a cane?

  

Well. hell- come find out!

TXGunNut said
Survived the train trip south, have discovered mass transit is the best way to get to Dallas Convention Center from my little spot on the prairie. Met some guys headed to the convention in Carrollton and as a group we managed to negotiate the train changes. Eric Olson’s Mason revolver display is indeed exceptional, enjoyed visiting with him. Around the corner is Colt Collectors’ Large Frame Colt Lightning display hosted by Michael Kelly. Nice guy, very knowledgeable! Seem to have overlooked the nap lounge, guess I’ll go wander around the show a bit. I may have missed something. Yes, Big Larry, S&W Collectors are here too.

Y’all come!

 

Mike

  

Second that. Went yesterday (Saturday) and it was worth the trip

For those who are 65 or look it, regional DART day pass is only 3 bucks for all day, whether you’re coming from Garland (blue), Plano (red), Irving (orange), Denton (A-Train + green ÷ blue or red), Fort Worth/Mid Cities (TRE + blue), or Carrollton (green + blue or red.)

Red, Blue, Green lines each have a Southern terminus as well. Green is Buckner in extreme Southeast Dallas and Red is Westmoreland in South Dallas. Blue is in Oak Cliff. 

Download the DART.org app and plan routes and buy tickets on your phone. Watch your train approach on a map in real-time on your phone. Outside rush hours is best. 

After dark, carry for comfort unless your destination renders that impractical. Then CN and a blade, maybe a Surefire mini light. Not a really dangerous way to travel but the resulting self confidence keeps the occasional winos and methheads at a distance. 

Further Affiant saith not…

TXGunNut said
Yes, DART segment of the trip was a bit interesting, to say the least. Very efficient and well-run. Even though I watched them disinfect all the likely surfaces at the end of the line (missed my Carrollton DART/DCTA stop, twice!) I still wanted to take a shower when I got home. The homeless and “idle” folks didn’t bother me but some definitely needed a bath. Since it was the NRA Show and it was downtown Dallas I set the table with the good China, so to speak. I’ll ride it again, I skipped the DSC Show there last time because of Dallas’ auto theft problem.

 

Mike

  

Mike, I may have contributed to your missing your A-Train connection. I forgot it skips the Frankford DART station and uses Trinity Mills station as its terminus.  I usually board at the Downtown Carrollton station because it’s slightly quicker for me and seldom ride North of there. 

The Green Line has an elevated Market Hall station. The trick is to walk South on the platform to an elevator that takes you up to the Eastern edge of the top (roof) level of a parking garage. Walk across the lot to the elevator on the Northwest corner of the lot, which takes you down to street level. Then walk South to the corner of the garage, turn the corner of the building and walk West to the front of the building and a sidewalk. Market Hall is across the street. There’s a stoplight to your right to cross the street. 

Don’t try going down the Market Hall station steps on the East side of the platform to ground level where the buses pull in, thinking you can then walk at ground level around the South or North side of the parking garage. There’s no way around on the South side.  There is no safe way around on the North side. because there’s a second set of RR tracks below the DART line tracks and no provision or sidewalk to cross them.  They are heavily used by long freight trains, the TRE, and Amtrak’s Eagle.  All of them running at highball speeds.  

To see what I mean, load Google Maps on your big screen, locate Market Hall in satellite view, enlarge to where you can see the layout. 

Market Hall boat and gun shows are a piece of cake on DART/DCTA once you’ve tried this method.

Did I mention Victory Station for arena hockey, basketball, concerts. Caution: they do wand everybody and the trains can be crowded. 

But it beats I-35E and its Saturday night drunk drivers all to hell….

mrcvs said
What’s it like carrying a rifle on public transportation, albeit presumably cased?

  

mrcvs said
What’s it like carrying a rifle on public transportation, albeit presumably cased?

  

Under Texas law, which specifically prohibits inferior jurisdictions (e.g. cities and public transit agencies) from regulating the carrying of firearms, there is no LEGAL PROHIBITION against carrying a rifle on a  DART bus or train. AS LONG AS YOU DON’T INTENTIONALLY POINT IT AT ANYBODY, which can be prosecuted as a “terroristic  threat”. 

Which is a significant risk on a crowded bus with a possibly hostile fellow passenger; and a strong reason for casing the rifle.

Constitutionalist Commandos will please remember “INTENTIONALLY” can be proven by indirect evidence – like what the adjacent wino said he saw you do or say. 

I’m not sufficiently up to date on our current  firearms law to be able to say whether an openly carried long gun in public must now be cased — we do have an open carry permissive statute with some limitations – but, before that became law, the open carry in public places of an uncased long gun was not a crime. 

The reason I haven’t bothered to find out is, I think openly carrying an uncased rifle in public places is hazardous to your pocketbook and liberty, and stupid to boot,  except in extreme emergencies. 

I’ve carried a hard cased shotgun on public transportation- specifically an airport bus – and the only questions and comments were very friendly and encouraging. 

BIG EXCEPTION AND IMPORTANT SAFETY TIP:  AMTRAK FORBIDS THE PASSAGE OF ANY FIREARMS IN ANY MANNER. NO EXCEPTIONS. IT’S A NO $HIT FEDERAL FELONY. DONT DO IT!  

Maybe the Supremes will eventually strike down this onerous federal regulation as a violation of the Second Amendment.

HOWEVER. Unless and until that happy contingency occurs and all filed motions for rehearing are refused and any further motions would be untimely —  don’t martyr your family’s future happiness by risking time in Club Fed. You wouldnt like the food, either.

Agree.  To satisfy my own curiosity, I did some quick research and can find no Texas law prohibiting the open, uncased carry of a long gun in public places except while engaged in the commission of a crime.

However, a person who carries a long gun openly in a manner that would objectively frighten another,  ordinary and reasonable person, commits the misdemeanor offense of disorderly conduct. 

That’s enough reason to case it, right there. 

Nevada Paul said
You folks in Texas are blessed by an all star governor and law enforcement which concentrates on real crime, while protecting your constitutional rights.

Even in Nevada, we have to go through a lengthy process for concealed carry, and have for many years.  The question of carrying without the permit remains very fuzzy, but I’ve known of instances of folks being prosecuted for ‘concealed carry without a permit’ even though they were completely legal to own the weapon in question.  We are still OK with a firearm in a vehicle.

As for flying with a firearm, I do frequently fly with a checked handgun.  Even though the TSA regulations are the same throughout the USA, I encounter very different responses and requests from counter agents depending upon where I happen to be checking the firearm. The small town where I live is rural, so it hasn’t been an issue at the small airport here. Likewise in Salt Lake City or Houston, where it’s accepted as ‘normal activity.

I once had a United Airlines agent in New Orleans refuse to allow me to check my handgun, even though I’d flown there with it (all legally) a week earlier. After about an hour of being interrogated by TSA agents and demanding to speak to a United supervisor, I was allowed to return home with my handgun.  I think the individual agents probably have too much sway in these matters.

I know the rules, and I always try to obey, be courteous and professional and reassure the agents that I want to ‘play by the rules’.  But some just seem to want to harass.

NP

  

I’ve never experienced that when checking a handgun anywhere in Texas or in Oregon or Washington State. But NOLA is an old, corrupt, semi-European city with all that those things imply. It’s not like the rest of Louisiana. 

Chuck said

Zebulon said

Nevada Paul said

You folks in Texas are blessed by an all star governor and law enforcement which concentrates on real crime, while protecting your constitutional rights.

Even in Nevada, we have to go through a lengthy process for concealed carry, and have for many years.  The question of carrying without the permit remains very fuzzy, but I’ve known of instances of folks being prosecuted for ‘concealed carry without a permit’ even though they were completely legal to own the weapon in question.  We are still OK with a firearm in a vehicle.

As for flying with a firearm, I do frequently fly with a checked handgun.  Even though the TSA regulations are the same throughout the USA, I encounter very different responses and requests from counter agents depending upon where I happen to be checking the firearm. The small town where I live is rural, so it hasn’t been an issue at the small airport here. Likewise in Salt Lake City or Houston, where it’s accepted as ‘normal activity.

I once had a United Airlines agent in New Orleans refuse to allow me to check my handgun, even though I’d flown there with it (all legally) a week earlier. After about an hour of being interrogated by TSA agents and demanding to speak to a United supervisor, I was allowed to return home with my handgun.  I think the individual agents probably have too much sway in these matters.

I know the rules, and I always try to obey, be courteous and professional and reassure the agents that I want to ‘play by the rules’.  But some just seem to want to harass.

NP

  

I’ve never experienced that when checking a handgun anywhere in Texas or in Oregon or Washington State. But NOLA is an old, corrupt, semi-European city with all that those things imply. It’s not like the rest of Louisiana. 

  

I just flew home with 2 loading die sets in my carry on.  I knew this would raise some eyebrows so I put them right on top in my bag.  I did get flagged and the United agent had no idea what she was looking at.  But fortunately her supervisor did.  I got flagged last year leaving Cody with a set of book ends.

Another question, does anyone know the United airlines rules for flying with ammo?  I know there is a weight limit, has to be in original package and I assume an airlines approved locking case. Anything else??  I bought 3 boxes of ammo in Greeley and forgot that I had no way to get these home.  I gave one box to a dealer in Ca. and the other 2 two a Montana resident.  Forever I never had to worry about this but as my older friends keep passing away I need to learn something new.

  

Check, here is a link to the United Airlines website on ‘firearms and ammunition’    https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/baggage/firearms.html#:~:text=Firearms%20need%20to%20be%20in,must%20always%20be%20with%20you.

It appears to adhere to TSA regs. However, as I mentioned in my original post, you may find yourself at odds with an agent even though you are prepared to follow all the posted rules.