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New to the Group. Inheriting my fathers collection of pre 64 model 70's
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August 17, 2023 - 3:34 am
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Thanks for being a part of the group. I’m an avid hunter based in Montana, but unfortunately my father passed away this past march. He was crazy about MOdel 70’s, and now I’m finding rifles all over his house. I’m hoping to get some honest opinions and knowledge on what we are looking at. Not looking to sell anytime soon, but good to know potential values, stories, etc. 

 

Like this one I just found. Seems to be a Model 70 220 swift new in box and never fired. From the serial number it looks like it was made in 1961? 

 

Wait… I can’t seem to add the photos. Cool

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Ryan,

Welcome to the forum, and I’m sorry for your loss.  I’m sure our model 70 experts will be able to answer any questions you may have about the model 70, but pictures are a must.  Since you are not a WACA member, you’ll need to post pictures to a third party sight like photobucket, or something like that.

Al

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Ryan,

You will get better response if you post this in the Winchester Rifle section of this forum. I don’t think it got noticed.

Al

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August 25, 2023 - 5:45 pm
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Ryan Guay said  Seems to be a Model 70 220 swift new in box and never fired. From the serial number it looks like it was made in 1961? 

Search “sold prices” for same gun on Gunbroker, then add 50% for gun with box & papers.

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Hi Ryan-

According to your login you are signed up as a Forum Member but are a WACA “Guest”.  Directly posting photos on this site is only open to WACA Members, so you’ll need to upload the pics to a third party photo hosting service and then paste the link here.  Personally, I’d love to see your Dad’s M70s…

Really high condition or rare M70s can be pricey these days…  For example, a nice 220 SWIFT standard rifle from 1946 (so a cloverleaf tang “transition” model) sold this week on GI for $3900.  In general, the late production guns don’t bring as much as earlier ones since the quality declined notably, especially in the 1960s.  But, as Clarence says, some folks will pay a considerable premium for a genuinely “new in box” rifle…

Looking forward to hopefully seeing pics…

Lou

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Louis Luttrell said In general, the late production guns don’t bring as much as earlier ones since the quality declined notably, especially in the 1960s.  But, as Clarence says, some folks will pay a considerable premium for a genuinely “new in box” rifle… 

This is why I’ve always thought the “pre-’64” emphasis was somewhat misplaced.  Not that the post-’64 changes weren’t highly significant, but all pre-’64s are not created equal.  Nevertheless, “new-in-the-box” in one of the scarcer calibers should command the attention of many 70 collectors.

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Ryan, as others have shared, I’m sorry for your loss.  Losing a father is never easy.  But it sounds like your dad had a passion for Winchesters that you are about to experience (hopefully in a positive way).  You shared that you are in Montana… there is a show next week, September 8, 9 & 10 in Kalispell. Held at the Majestic Arena… there will be a lot of Winchester collectors there (myself included) and there are some very knowledgeable people that will help with your understanding.  The Winchester 70 book most referred to by collectors is by Roger Rule… check your father’s library for a copy (they are also valuable to collectors) as well as many other Winchester reference books.  Rather than haul your rifles to the show, you might want to create a list of what you have and look around to see what similar items are being offered / sold for, before you decide what to do…  who knows, you may end up keeping them and adding to them….  Ben

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