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Well, I only have 5 Win 22 RF rifles and just yesterday was talking with my wife about the need for another safe.  Guess I’m beyond help!

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Guess I’m beyond help!

That is the first step in any recovery program… admitting that you are incapable of correcting your problem!  Sometimes, we all have to just admit that we have an incurable affliction Wink

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Here on the WACA Site you will find pleanty of assistance in filling your desires.  ‘Needs’ are a personal thing.  Laugh  RDB

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At last count (by spreadsheet, not by dragging them all out of the safes), I have 37 Winchester rimfires. I don’t think I ‘needed’ any of them.  But I had to have them.Laugh

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At last count (by spreadsheet, not by dragging them all out of the safes), I have 37 Winchester rimfires.

That’s giving Big Larry a run for his money! 

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clarence said

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At last count (by spreadsheet, not by dragging them all out of the safes), I have 37 Winchester rimfires.

That’s giving Big Larry a run for his money! 

  

From what I’ve seen here, not many of mine, and perhaps none, would rival Big Larry’s for condition.

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I’m in the early stages of rebuilding my home after a tragic tornado and quite honestly the space occupied by a silly garden tub would be better occupied by a really big third safe. It only makes sense, I downsized my water heater awhile back to a more efficient size and it will never fill a garden tub without help from my canning kettles. If a woman in my life wants to get wet and naked the shower will have to do. My advice, adding a safe beats upsizing. If two won’t hold your collection add a third. If you’re on your second safe (or even first) you need to know your homeowners insurance will not cover your collection. Ask hard questions of your agent, I’m sorry but you won’t like their answers.

 

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Guess I’m beyond help!

That is the first step in any recovery program… admitting that you are incapable of correcting your problem!  Sometimes, we all have to just admit that we have an incurable affliction Wink

  

Actually I lied.  I forgot the Winder.  I also have a couple 22’s that are not Winchester.  Spent all my time at the range today trying to get the Unertl on the  52 dialed in.  I have no idea how much the turrets need to be moved to get a certain amount on the target.  They are not even marked up/down or left/right?  Anybody have any info on this or even how to date the scope?  Mine is 15582.

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Chuck said They are not even marked up/down or left/right? 

This drives me crazy, esp on rcvr sights built before the ’40s, when makers finally began marking the knob with an arrow.  Elevation–clockwise moves down; windage–clockwise moves left; 1/4″ MOA.  So draw your own arrows with a magic marker.

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Chuck said

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Guess I’m beyond help!

That is the first step in any recovery program… admitting that you are incapable of correcting your problem!  Sometimes, we all have to just admit that we have an incurable affliction Wink

  

Actually I lied.  I forgot the Winder.  I also have a couple 22’s that are not Winchester.  Spent all my time at the range today trying to get the Unertl on the  52 dialed in.  I have no idea how much the turrets need to be moved to get a certain amount on the target.  They are not even marked up/down or left/right?  Anybody have any info on this or even how to date the scope?  Mine is 15582.

  

One quick check for rough dating is the presence of coated lenses (that bluish haze), which began to be used shortly after WW II, when the process was expropriated from the Germans.  Not 100% reliable, as Unertl solicited coating jobs on pre-war scopes, but I don’t think many owners thought it was worth the trouble.

Unertl “misplaced” their serial records after the last relocation of their factory from Pittsburgh to Mars, Pa, in the ’80s.  I found this out when I tried to search a serial no & was told they had been packed up, but couldn’t be located. 

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Private Smith,  as should be apparent by now, the inmates are in charge of the asylum.

However, anyone with more than three (3) Winchester rimfire rifles obviously suffers from Winchester Collector Disease syndrome and we’ve been expecting you for some time.  

While WCD syndrome is not painful or debilitating in itself, at least to the afflicted,  be prudent and cautious about exposing any Significant Other to the inevitable symptoms. 

For example, avoid discussions of the need for a larger gun safe, which can lead to questions about why you need one. If pressed, explain that future enhancement of her jewelry collection is a constant concern. Avoid specifics and don’t dwell on the subject.

However, you might want to explore the Theory of Counter-balancing Bling. 

  

Laugh You are correct! And nice jewelry needs a secure home.

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At last count (by spreadsheet, not by dragging them all out of the safes), I have 37 Winchester rimfires. I don’t think I ‘needed’ any of them.  But I had to have them.Laugh

  

Very impressive!

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Private Smith said

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At last count (by spreadsheet, not by dragging them all out of the safes), I have 37 Winchester rimfires. I don’t think I ‘needed’ any of them.  But I had to have them.Laugh

  

Very impressive!

  

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Zebulon said

Private Smith said

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At last count (by spreadsheet, not by dragging them all out of the safes), I have 37 Winchester rimfires. I don’t think I ‘needed’ any of them.  But I had to have them.Laugh

  

Very impressive!

  

A terminal case. Note well the use of the plural of “safe.”

  

A bigger safe is an exercise in futility. They never hold as many as you want. An additional safe is a better plan.

 

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Zebulon said  A terminal case. Note well the use of the plural of “safe.”

I’ve never owned a safe…not even one; though at one time I had over 200 long guns & over 50 handguns.  Where did they all go?  Mostly in soft cases in closets.  But I haven’t in the last 50 yrs lived in a place where I felt the need to lock my doors.  In my present very small house, I converted a 3×3′ closet into a closed space heated with a 60 W light bulb. 

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In a perfect World that would be the norm. Sadly, many of us live elsewhere and have no practical alternative. 

I cannot think of a place in Texas where leaving unsecured valuable things that are portable and readily convertible to cash, is not asking to lose them. Even in so-called “remote” parts of West Texas, our growing population has always included the light-fingered and the dangerous. 

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Zebulon said
In a perfect World that would be the norm. Sadly, many of us live elsewhere and have no practical alternative. 

I cannot think of a place in Texas where leaving unsecured valuable things that are portable and readily convertible to cash, is not asking to lose them. Even in so-called “remote” parts of West Texas, our growing population has always included the light-fingered and the dangerous. 

“The flies will gather at churning time.” 

Like some here, where & when I grew up, there was no need for a gun safe in our home.  The long guns simply hung out in gun racks in open view.  I did not buy my first gun safe until May 1999… they have been multiplying ever since.

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Oh Private Smith.  Turn around and run if it’s not too late.  I quit collecting a few years ago although I continue to upgrade in quality and quantity.  My wife wants to take me to the vet and have me put to sleep.  Welcome to insanity!

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Oh Private Smith.  Turn around and run if it’s not too late.  I quit collecting a few years ago although I continue to upgrade in quality and quantity.  My wife wants to take me to the vet and have me put to sleep.  Welcome to insanity!

  

I love this statement… good to hear you are no longer collecting….Wink

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Bert H. said

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In a perfect World that would be the norm. Sadly, many of us live elsewhere and have no practical alternative. 

I cannot think of a place in Texas where leaving unsecured valuable things that are portable and readily convertible to cash, is not asking to lose them. Even in so-called “remote” parts of West Texas, our growing population has always included the light-fingered and the dangerous. 

“The flies will gather at churning time.” 

Like some here, where & when I grew up, there was no need for a gun safe in our home.  The long guns simply hung out in gun racks in open view.  I did not buy my first gun safe until May 1999… they have been multiplying ever since.

  

That was certainly true in the Post WWII years in rural and suburban Texas (but not in major cities, even then), at a crude guess, say, up until the mid-Seventies, probably fading at the same rate as population and mobility were Iincreasing.  Degradation of the nuclear family, the curse of increasing drug use with the attendant increase of theft and burglary to sustain resulting addictions… all conspired to send property crimes soaring. 

Humans are the apex predator because of our intelligence and superior ability to change and adapt.  That includes using safes and security systems, not out of fear but prudence. We need to discourage our light-fingered brethren and sistren, who are likewise adaptable. 

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