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This is a rifle I am looking at that I think may be a parts gun. It is suppose to be a 1917 Model 1892 SRC but, looking at the magazine attachment sleeve and missing carbine barrel band, it looks like a sporting barrel was installed. Am I correct or could it have come this way? C
What you’re looking at is the standard configuration for a ’92 carbine in .25-20 and .32-20.
win4575 said
What you’re looking at is the standard configuration for a ’92 carbine in .25-20 and .32-20.
Thank you! It is indeed a 32-20.
Cliff,
Hard to tell from the photos, but that looks like a pretty nice little carbine. I have ’92 carbines in all four calibers and the .32-20 is a lot of fun to shoot and very accurate.
win4575 said
Cliff,Hard to tell from the photos, but that looks like a pretty nice little carbine. I have ’92 carbines in all four calibers and the .32-20 is a lot of fun to shoot and very accurate.
Gotta agree that the 32-20 1892 Carbine is by far the most accurate of all my 1892’s and I also have all 4 calibers in carbines and rifles as well.
"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Hello Cliff,
The gun looks correct. On the Model 1892 SRC’s all of the 25-20 and 32 WCF caliber examples have the under barrel magazine retaining band and never had the full barrel band like the 38 and 44 WCF rifles. If it were truly a sporting rifle barrel the rear sight dovetail would be further from the receiver face. Can I please get the SN of the gun for my survey?
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Hello Cliff,The gun looks correct. On the Model 1892 SRC’s all of the 25-20 and 32 WCF caliber examples have the under barrel magazine retaining band and never had the full barrel band like the 38 and 44 WCF rifles. If it were truly a sporting rifle barrel the rear sight dovetail would be further from the receiver face. Can I please get the SN of the gun for my survey?
Michael
Thanks Michael. Its on is way to me but the serial number is 817510. Good to know it looks correct.
Cliff said
Thanks Michael. Its on is way to me but the serial number is 817510. Good to know it looks correct.
Cliff,
The rifle is an early 1917 vintage gun. When you get it I would be interested in a photo of the upper tang please. The Type 4 style, with “&FGN” on the loser line, was just showing up in production at this time period.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Cliff said
Thanks Michael. Its on is way to me but the serial number is 817510. Good to know it looks correct.
Cliff,
The rifle is an early 1917 vintage gun. When you get it I would be interested in a photo of the upper tang please. The Type 4 style, with “&FGN” on the loser line, was just showing up in production at this time period.
Michael
Sure thing! What is FGN ?
Cliff said
Sure thing! What is FGN ?
Winchester was trying to discourage all the foreign companies that were making imitation 1892’s so they added FGN to their trademark line to indicate that their patents also were valid in other countries.
"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Wincacher said
Winchester was trying to discourage all the foreign companies that were making imitation 1892’s so they added FGN to their trademark line to indicate that their patents also were valid in other countries.
But were they? I recall reading that Spain didn’t honor other country’s patents, in fact they had a law to that effect. There were a lot of Spanish copies and some were bad, some were very good. That’s the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Nice gun by the way, and interesting caliber. Might have to expand my collection.
Vince
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Vince said
But were they? I recall reading that Spain didn’t honor other country’s patents, in fact they had a law to that effect. There were a lot of Spanish copies and some were bad, some were very good. That’s the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Nice gun by the way, and interesting caliber. Might have to expand my collection.
Actually, the FGN was to stop them from marking their copies “WINCHESTER”. I guess they could make the copies, they just couldn’t stamp them with the Winchester brand.
"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
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